New argument for efans!

[LEB Ben]

What about my ceiling fan? That had to be 2nd best.

I think I got you for that...


On edit...for those of you that said it would only last 6 pages...you are now officially wrong.

 

[lil_dq]

I think I got you for that...


On edit...for those of you that said it would only last 6 pages...you are now officially wrong.

You know you really need to change your PPP!

 

[LEB Ben]

You know you really need to change your PPP!

You know what...just eat me, ok. Sheesh, I may have grown up with technology...but I feel as if I'm about as proficient as Brad is with this stuff. I have problems enough just getting to this site...me pound keyboard...shapes show up on fancy rectangle. That's about it.

 

[6L PWR]

Pfft... Germans

I think I'll invent a car that has two engines in it, in case 1 breaks

Can you make it a Ford diesel for me?

 

[d-kuzmen]

In my opinion, both have good points, and both have bad. I've replaced hundreds of water pumps because the fan or clutch went causing an imbalance. Remember the flex fans breaking and drilling the hoods and other components? The e-fans need different diagnostic skills to find an overheating issue. E-fans are a requirement on front wheel drive vehicles with the transverse engines, and their track record has been pretty good. I have replaced many of these fans as well when they've burned up. I think its a matter of personal preference. Whatever headaches you are prepared to deal with is the route you should take.

I personally don't have problems with either fan type. It's all preferance. Quite a few cars now adays are running efans even rear wheel drives such as crown vic's. In the 6.0 and 6.4 diesels they have a electronicly controlled fan clutch. I myself wouldn't waste my time installing a efan in somthing that had a mechanical fan just for a few HP that you most likely won't "feel" the difference. Now if I were building some super high HP engine or couldn't fit a mechanical fan then thats a different story. And thats all I have to say about that..

 

[Skandocious]

wouldn't waste my time installing a efan in somthing that had a mechanical fan just for a few HP that you most likely won't "feel" the difference.

Of course someone who hasn't done it would say this... You absolutely CAN feel the difference. Ask any of the efan guys on this site.

 

[SuperCab]

I don't think you're going to 'feel' a 10-15 hp gain in your driving. I could be wrong, but it sounds like quite the exaggeration to me.

 

[Raptor22]

Of course someone who hasn't done it would say this... You absolutely CAN feel the difference. Ask any of the efan guys on this site.

Maybe we could talk at some point, an efan setup would be pretty cool on my truck.

 

[Skandocious]

I don't think you're going to 'feel' a 10-15 hp gain in your driving. I could be wrong, but it sounds like quite the exaggeration to me.

Have you done an efan swap? No? Well I have.

Yes driving down the freeway at constant speed you're not going to 'feel' it.. But how are you going to tell me that an added 10-15hp cannot be felt? Try telling that to a drag racer... "oh well this intake manifold only gives 15hp so there's no use having it... oh the open exhaust? Nah it only gives 10hp, lets not mess with it... Throttle body you say? No we'll only pick up 12hp, why bother?" Can imagine such ridiculousness taking place? Of course not. There aren't very many SINGLE modifications that offer 100+hp in 1 shot-- it's the smaller mods that collectively add up to big numbers.

I can feel the 10-15hp (or however much it really is) in the acceleration of my truck. There is a definite difference, otherwise you wouldnt see efan swap writeups spreading like wildfire around the internet.

 

[radialarm]

If you're not speaking from experience, then you're just !!!

 

[Skandocious]

Maybe we could talk at some point, an efan setup would be pretty cool on my truck.

You betcha. Not sure if we can squeeze the t-bird fan in with your 300-- I've seen people having clearance problems because the block is longer... But we might be able to take some measurements and work some magic

 

[radialarm]

You betcha. Not sure if we can squeeze the t-bird fan in with your 300-- I've seen people having clearance problems because the block is longer... But we might be able to take some measurements and work some magic

I6 clearence problems!!!

Then I'm your man!!!

 

[LEB Ben]

I don't think you're going to 'feel' a 10-15 hp gain in your driving. I could be wrong, but it sounds like quite the exaggeration to me.

That comment caught my attention too. I've never known 10-15...hell even 25 hp to give a seat of the pants improvement. But you can't argue with the numbers...if a swap can help add 14hp, it may be worth it. I'm still debating, because (knock on wood)...I've yet to have any issues with a mechanical fan, yet again haven't had any issues with an efan either.

 

[Skandocious]

I've never known 10-15...hell even 25 hp to give a seat of the pants improvement. But you can't argue with the numbers...

I'd be hard pressed to make the argument that the efan turned my truck into a dragster... But you'd be damned impressed if you drove my bigass truck, it really gets out of it's own way, especially for being so heavy. And that's been accomplished with out any major engine mods.

 

[O'Rattlecan]

On an engine that comes stock with 210hp, you can feel 10hp difference. It might be a tad less noticable if you have a truck that's out of the factory at 320 hp, or if you have a PSD. I know I could feel a difference when I dumped my mechanical fan.

Ryan

 

[LEB Ben]

I know it's been covered before...but do any of you guys have an all inclusive cost list of the swap??????

 

[Skandocious]

I know it's been covered before...but do any of you guys have an all inclusive cost list of the swap??????

I don't have exact figures but rough costs...

Junkyard t-bird fan = $30
2x 40amp Hella relays = ~$10-15 for both
1x 75amp Bosch relay = ~$30
1x 40amp fuse = ~$5
Temperature controlled switch = ~$20
3-position in-dash switch = ~$8
Misc spools or wire = ~$15 (with extra wire leftover)
Misc crimp connectors = ~$10
Brackets = homemade (by Rick) [can also use the radiator zip-tie things]


Most people have wire and crimp connectors (or solder) at their house already so those costs could potentially be $0. Also-- after doing my install and seeing that a 40amp fuse doesn't blow when the high speed is being used, I'm fairly certain that I could just use three 40amp relays instead of using the 75amp on the high-speed circuit.

 

[Bob Ayers]

That comment caught my attention too. I've never known 10-15...hell even 25 hp to give a seat of the pants improvement. But you can't argue with the numbers...if a swap can help add 14hp, it may be worth it. I'm still debating, because (knock on wood)...I've yet to have any issues with a mechanical fan, yet again haven't had any issues with an efan either.

Remember the 14HP with a mechanical fan was with a locked clutch, which rarely happens!

And Chris still hasn't addressed the efficiency of the alternator, and electric motor, which I brought up.....

I think what they are noticing is called the "Placebo Effect"!!!

 

[Bob Ayers]

I don't have exact figures but rough costs...

Junkyard t-bird fan = $30
2x 40amp Hella relays = ~$10-15 for both
1x 75amp Bosch relay = ~$30
1x 40amp fuse = ~$5
Misc spools or wire = ~$15 (with extra wire leftover)
Misc crimp connectors = ~$10
Brackets = homemade (by Rick) [can also use the radiator zip-tie things]


Most people have wire and crimp connectors (or solder) at their house already so those costs could potentially be $0. Also-- after doing my install and seeing that a 40amp fuse doesn't blow when the high speed is being used, I'm fairly certain that I could just use three 40amp relays instead of using the 75amp on the high-speed circuit.

Where is the temp sensor / controller?

 

[O'Rattlecan]

Remember the 14HP with a mechanical fan was with a locked clutch, which rarely happens!

And Chris still hasn't addressed the efficiency of the alternator, and electric motor, which I brought up.....

I think what they are noticing is called the "Placebo Effect"!!!

Especially when the fan isn't powered on...

Ryan