Pulling a cab

[blacksnapon]

OK, I've got saturday service, I'm going to pull the cab on an 08. Anything you guys want to see? I'll bring my camera.

 

[polarbear]

Kewl- yeah, that'd be interesting.

 

[slmann]

I wouldn't mind seeing some pics of that.

 

[Bob Ayers]

Yes, that will be great!! What is the problem that you have to pull the cab?

 

[blacksnapon]

Yes, that will be great!! What is the problem that you have to pull the cab?

Thats the one with a high pitched squeal under high boost/heavy load. The leaking exhaust component is on the rear of the engine. A lot less skinned knuckles doing it that way.

 

[Brian_B]

Sure...that would be interesting to see.

If you have time, write up what you actually have to unbolt/remove to get it off.


Do you think my 56 cab will come off the same way?

 

[O'Rattlecan]

love to see a few pictures on how to prep, what it looks like when it's being pulled, and one where it's most disassembled.

Putting it back together is of no interest to people like me.

Ryan

 

[blacksnapon]

Sure...that would be interesting to see.

If you have time, write up what you actually have to unbolt/remove to get it off.


Do you think my 56 cab will come off the same way?

Will this work?

Special Tool(s) Universal Cab Hold-Down Strap
138-04411 or equivalent
Disconnect Tool, Transmission Cooler Line
307-441

Removal and Installation

Crew Cab Shown

Item Part Number Description
1 W712878 Front end sheet metal body mount bolts (2 required) (all vehicles)
2 W712878 Body mount no. 1 bolts (2 required) (all vehicles)
3 W712879 Body mount no. 2 bolts (2 required) ( Crew Cab only)
4 W712878 Body mount no. 3 bolts (2 required) (all vehicles)

All vehicles


NOTE: A 2-post hoist must be used to lift the body from the chassis.

With the vehicle in NEUTRAL, position it on a hoist. For additional information, refer to Section 100-02.
Drain the engine coolant. For additional information, refer to Section 303-03.
Disconnect the battery cables from the left and right batteries. For additional information, refer to Section 414-01.
Separate the leads from the left positive battery cable.

Separate the leads from the right positive battery cable.

Separate the leads from the right negative battery cable.

Remove the left and right batteries.
Remove the 2 hoses from the degas bottle.

Manual transmission


Lift upward on the gear shift boot to access the gear shift bolt.

Remove the gear shift bolt.
To install, tighten to 30 Nm (22 lb-ft).

Four Wheel Drive (4WD) vehicles


Disconnect the check valve from the vacuum hose on the degas bottle.

All vehicles


Remove the retaining clip and disconnect the upper radiator hose from the radiator.

Remove the bolts and position the left battery tray aside.
To install, tighten to 16 Nm (12 lb-ft).

Remove the retaining clip and disconnect the fill hose from the degas bottle and remove the degas bottle.

Four wheel drive (4WD) vehicles


Unclip the vacuum hose from the degas bottle fill hose.

Unclip the vacuum hose from the brake Hydro-Boost® hose and position aside.

All vehicles


Disconnect the mass air flow (MAF) sensor connector and unclip from the air cleaner housing.

Disconnect the air filter restriction indicator connector from the air filter restriction indicator.

Loosen the clamp on the air cleaner pipe.

NOTE: The air cleaner housing must be removed to access the A/C fitting. Install the air cleaner housing after the A/C system has been charged.

Remove the air cleaner housing.

Remove the 3 wiring harnesses from the top of the right battery tray.

Four wheel drive (4WD) vehicles


Remove the vacuum line and A/C line from the right battery tray.

All vehicles


Remove the A/C line from the right battery tray.

Remove the 2 bolts and the air cleaner bracket.
To install, tighten to 16 Nm (12 lb-ft).

Remove the battery cable from the retainer on the side of the right battery tray.

Remove the bolts from the right battery tray.
To install, tighten to 16 Nm (12 lb-ft).

Remove the right battery tray for access to the washer fluid bottle.
Disconnect the washer fluid bottle electrical connector.
Disconnect the washer fluid bottle hose.

NOTE: The connector must be removed to access the A/C fitting. Install the connector after the A/C system has been charged.

Disconnect the electrical connector and clip from the PCM.

Disconnect the engine wiring harness located below the PCM.

Recover the refrigerant. For additional information, refer to Section 412-00.
Remove the banjo fittings and the sealing washers from the fuel cooler.
Discard the sealing washers.
To install, tighten the banjo fittings and the new sealing washers to 25 Nm (18 lb-ft).

Remove the 3 turbo charger actuator cooler front housing bolts.
To install, tighten to 13 Nm (10 lb-ft).

Remove the 2 fuel cooler mounting bolts.

Remove the studs for the fuel cooler.
To install, tighten to 38 Nm (28 lb-ft).

Remove the retaining nuts for the fuel cooler.
To install, tighten to 19 Nm (14 lb-ft).

Remove the 3 bolts (2 shown) from the fuel cooler and coolant expansion tank. Position the fuel cooler and expansion tank aside.
To install, tighten to 9 Nm (80 lb-in).

Using a suitable suction device, drain the power steering fluid reservoir.
Disconnect the hose from the power steering auxiliary cooler line and remove the retaining clip.

Unclip the fuel cooler line from the side of the power steering fluid reservoir.

Disconnect the 3 hoses from the power steering fluid reservoir.

Remove the 2 bolts from the top of the power steering fluid reservoir and remove the reservoir.

Disconnect the turbo charger-to-charger air pipe (left side).

Disconnect the cooler-to-engine charger air cooler pipe (right side).

Disconnect the radiator hose from the top of the upper shroud and position aside.

Four wheel drive (4WD) vehicles


Disconnect the electrical connector from the four wheel drive (4WD) vacuum switch.

Disconnect the 4WD vacuum hose and position aside.

All vehicles


Remove the 2 upper bolts (1 each side) from the radiator shroud.
To install, tighten to 6 Nm (53 lb-in).

Remove the 2 lower bolts (1 each side) from the upper radiator shroud and remove the shroud.
To install, tighten to 6 Nm (53 lb-in).

Disconnect the heater hose from the left side of the engine.

Disconnect the heater hose from the right side of the engine.

Remove the nut and disconnect the compressor manifold tube assembly from the accumulator.
To install, tighten to 8 Nm (71 lb-in).

Remove the nut and disconnect the compressor manifold tube assembly from the condenser.
To install, tighten to 8 Nm (71 lb-in).

Disconnect the electrical connector from the right side of the engine.

Remove the bolt and the ground wire from the right fender.
To install, tighten to 12 Nm (9 lb-ft).

Remove the bolt and the left upper ground wire from the right front of dash.
To install, tighten to 12 Nm (9 lb-ft).

Remove the wiring harness from the retaining clip and position aside.

Remove the 3 electrical connectors from the bracket on the left side of the engine compartment and disconnect the electrical connectors.

Disconnect the fog lamp electrical connector from the front of the radiator support and position aside, if equipped.

NOTE: Make sure the vehicle wheels are straight.

Place the vehicle in PARK and remove the key.
CAUTION: Do not allow the steering column shaft to rotate while the intermediate shaft is disconnected or damage to the clockspring can result. If there is evidence that the shaft has rotated, the clockspring must be removed and recentered. For additional information, refer to Section 501-20B.

Remove the intermediate steering shaft bolt and separate the shafts. Discard the bolt.
To install, tighten to 40 Nm (30 lb-ft).

Disconnect the 3 electrical connectors from the brake master cylinder.

Remove the 2 nuts and the brake master cylinder from the Hydro-Boost® and position aside.
To install, tighten to 30 Nm (22 lb-ft).

Remove the hydraulic brake lines from the retainer.

NOTE: New O-rings must be installed before the brake Hydro-Boost® lines are installed.

Remove the 2 hoses and O-rings from the brake Hydro-Boost®.
To install, tighten to 27 Nm (20 lb-ft).

Remove the bolt from the hood release assembly and position aside.
To install, tighten to 12 Nm (9 lb-ft).

Raise the vehicle.
Automatic transmission


Disconnect the auto transmission cable from the manual valve and retainer clip.

Manual transmission


Remove the clutch slave cylinder from the rear of the bell housing by turning counterclockwise.

Four wheel drive (4WD) vehicles


Disconnect the rod from the transfer case shift handle, if equipped.

All vehicles


Release the parking brake tension and disconnect the brake cable at the intermediate connection and remove from the retainer on the frame. For additional information, refer to Section 206-05
Remove the body/chassis ground on the right frame rail, behind the front wheel.
To install, tighten to 25 Nm (18 lb-ft).

Remove the safety clips from the transmission cooler lines.

Using the special tool, disconnect the transmission lines from the transmission cooler hoses and remove from the retainer on the frame.

Remove the retaining clip and separate the lower radiator hose.

Disconnect the lower radiator hose from the retainers on the frame.

If equipped, remove the running boards.
NOTE: Make sure to use only hand tools when removing the body mounting bolts.

NOTE: Make sure the insulator is removed with the body bolt.

Remove the body mounting bolts starting with the rear bolts.
Discard the body bolts.
To install, tighten to 103 Nm (76 lb-ft).

Lower the vehicle.
Place several fender covers between the cab and the pickup bed.
NOTE: Marking the position of the tires will aid in aligning the cab to the chassis.

Mark the position of the tires on the floor.
NOTE: A 2-post hoist must be used to lift the body from the chassis.

Position equally side-to-side the hoist lift pads below the pinch welds at the furthest most possible front and rear positions.
WARNING: Securely strap the cab to the lift using an appropriate tool. If the cab is not correctly secured, it could shift or fall. Failure to follow this instruction may result in serious personal injury.

Using the special tools, secure the vehicle to the hoist.

CAUTION: An assistant will be necessary to make sure all connections are disconnected and nothing interferes with the raising of the body while it is lifted.

With the aid of an assistant, lift the body from the chassis.
To install, reverse the removal procedure.
Align the tires to the marks on the floor.
Top off the fluids.
Install new body bolts.

 

[Skandocious]

K not gonna read that last post... Yeah right.

I've heard those new 08's are designed so that the cab pulls off real easy in a short amount of time, I forget the number. Somethin' like an hour or 2?

 

[blacksnapon]

The first time of any operation takes longer. This will be my first 08. The 6.0s averaged 3 to 5 hours depending on accessories (wrecker body, boom truck, etc)

 

[lil_dq]

Will this work?


Install new body bolts.

Thanks great read!

Yeah Right! LOL

good luck with that!

 

[Brian_B]

Will this work?

Special Tool(s) Universal Cab Hold-Down Strap
138-04411 or equivalent
Disconnect Tool, Transmission Cooler Line
307-441

Removal and Installation

Crew Cab Shown

Item Part Number Description
1 W712878 Front end sheet metal body mount bolts (2 required) (all vehicles)
2 W712878 Body mount no. 1 bolts (2 required) (all vehicles)
3 W712879 Body mount no. 2 bolts (2 required) ( Crew Cab only)
4 W712878 Body mount no. 3 bolts (2 required) (all vehicles)

All vehicles


NOTE: A 2-post hoist must be used to lift the body from the chassis.

With the vehicle in NEUTRAL, position it on a hoist. For additional information, refer to Section 100-02.
Drain the engine coolant. For additional information, refer to Section 303-03.
Disconnect the battery cables from the left and right batteries. For additional information, refer to Section 414-01.
Separate the leads from the left positive battery cable.

Separate the leads from the right positive battery cable.

Separate the leads from the right negative battery cable.

Remove the left and right batteries.
Remove the 2 hoses from the degas bottle.

Manual transmission


Lift upward on the gear shift boot to access the gear shift bolt.

Remove the gear shift bolt.
To install, tighten to 30 Nm (22 lb-ft).

Four Wheel Drive (4WD) vehicles


Disconnect the check valve from the vacuum hose on the degas bottle.

All vehicles


Remove the retaining clip and disconnect the upper radiator hose from the radiator.

Remove the bolts and position the left battery tray aside.
To install, tighten to 16 Nm (12 lb-ft).

Remove the retaining clip and disconnect the fill hose from the degas bottle and remove the degas bottle.

Four wheel drive (4WD) vehicles


Unclip the vacuum hose from the degas bottle fill hose.

Unclip the vacuum hose from the brake Hydro-Boost® hose and position aside.

All vehicles


Disconnect the mass air flow (MAF) sensor connector and unclip from the air cleaner housing.

Disconnect the air filter restriction indicator connector from the air filter restriction indicator.

Loosen the clamp on the air cleaner pipe.

NOTE: The air cleaner housing must be removed to access the A/C fitting. Install the air cleaner housing after the A/C system has been charged.

Remove the air cleaner housing.

Remove the 3 wiring harnesses from the top of the right battery tray.

Four wheel drive (4WD) vehicles


Remove the vacuum line and A/C line from the right battery tray.

All vehicles


Remove the A/C line from the right battery tray.

Remove the 2 bolts and the air cleaner bracket.
To install, tighten to 16 Nm (12 lb-ft).

Remove the battery cable from the retainer on the side of the right battery tray.

Remove the bolts from the right battery tray.
To install, tighten to 16 Nm (12 lb-ft).

Remove the right battery tray for access to the washer fluid bottle.
Disconnect the washer fluid bottle electrical connector.
Disconnect the washer fluid bottle hose.

NOTE: The connector must be removed to access the A/C fitting. Install the connector after the A/C system has been charged.

Disconnect the electrical connector and clip from the PCM.

Disconnect the engine wiring harness located below the PCM.

Recover the refrigerant. For additional information, refer to Section 412-00.
Remove the banjo fittings and the sealing washers from the fuel cooler.
Discard the sealing washers.
To install, tighten the banjo fittings and the new sealing washers to 25 Nm (18 lb-ft).

Remove the 3 turbo charger actuator cooler front housing bolts.
To install, tighten to 13 Nm (10 lb-ft).

Remove the 2 fuel cooler mounting bolts.

Remove the studs for the fuel cooler.
To install, tighten to 38 Nm (28 lb-ft).

Remove the retaining nuts for the fuel cooler.
To install, tighten to 19 Nm (14 lb-ft).

Remove the 3 bolts (2 shown) from the fuel cooler and coolant expansion tank. Position the fuel cooler and expansion tank aside.
To install, tighten to 9 Nm (80 lb-in).

Using a suitable suction device, drain the power steering fluid reservoir.
Disconnect the hose from the power steering auxiliary cooler line and remove the retaining clip.

Unclip the fuel cooler line from the side of the power steering fluid reservoir.

Disconnect the 3 hoses from the power steering fluid reservoir.

Remove the 2 bolts from the top of the power steering fluid reservoir and remove the reservoir.

Disconnect the turbo charger-to-charger air pipe (left side).

Disconnect the cooler-to-engine charger air cooler pipe (right side).

Disconnect the radiator hose from the top of the upper shroud and position aside.

Four wheel drive (4WD) vehicles


Disconnect the electrical connector from the four wheel drive (4WD) vacuum switch.

Disconnect the 4WD vacuum hose and position aside.

All vehicles


Remove the 2 upper bolts (1 each side) from the radiator shroud.
To install, tighten to 6 Nm (53 lb-in).

Remove the 2 lower bolts (1 each side) from the upper radiator shroud and remove the shroud.
To install, tighten to 6 Nm (53 lb-in).

Disconnect the heater hose from the left side of the engine.

Disconnect the heater hose from the right side of the engine.

Remove the nut and disconnect the compressor manifold tube assembly from the accumulator.
To install, tighten to 8 Nm (71 lb-in).

Remove the nut and disconnect the compressor manifold tube assembly from the condenser.
To install, tighten to 8 Nm (71 lb-in).

Disconnect the electrical connector from the right side of the engine.

Remove the bolt and the ground wire from the right fender.
To install, tighten to 12 Nm (9 lb-ft).

Remove the bolt and the left upper ground wire from the right front of dash.
To install, tighten to 12 Nm (9 lb-ft).

Remove the wiring harness from the retaining clip and position aside.

Remove the 3 electrical connectors from the bracket on the left side of the engine compartment and disconnect the electrical connectors.

Disconnect the fog lamp electrical connector from the front of the radiator support and position aside, if equipped.

NOTE: Make sure the vehicle wheels are straight.

Place the vehicle in PARK and remove the key.
CAUTION: Do not allow the steering column shaft to rotate while the intermediate shaft is disconnected or damage to the clockspring can result. If there is evidence that the shaft has rotated, the clockspring must be removed and recentered. For additional information, refer to Section 501-20B.

Remove the intermediate steering shaft bolt and separate the shafts. Discard the bolt.
To install, tighten to 40 Nm (30 lb-ft).

Disconnect the 3 electrical connectors from the brake master cylinder.

Remove the 2 nuts and the brake master cylinder from the Hydro-Boost® and position aside.
To install, tighten to 30 Nm (22 lb-ft).

Remove the hydraulic brake lines from the retainer.

NOTE: New O-rings must be installed before the brake Hydro-Boost® lines are installed.

Remove the 2 hoses and O-rings from the brake Hydro-Boost®.
To install, tighten to 27 Nm (20 lb-ft).

Remove the bolt from the hood release assembly and position aside.
To install, tighten to 12 Nm (9 lb-ft).

Raise the vehicle.
Automatic transmission....................... post too long..had to edit some

I was expecting, disconnect battery, unplug electrical connections, drain antifreeze, unbolt body, lift.

Well...Ok...with the newer vehicles...it has to be complicated or anyone could do it at home.

Its like 8 or 12 bolts, remove whole front cap, unplug electrical connections, unbolt cab, and lift on mine. The lift can be (and will be in my case) a folding engine hoist.

 

[blackhat620]

The first time of any operation takes longer. This will be my first 08. The 6.0s averaged 3 to 5 hours depending on accessories (wrecker body, boom truck, etc)

Since this is on the 08 and it was designed specifically by FMC to have the cab removed, that list shouldn't take you longer than 45-60 minutes to complete.



Pictures would be cool, along with a count of how many thrown wrenches and four letter words.

 

[Gunner]

I can't WAIT to see the pictures...............Sounds like a real mess to me, so I'd like to see the pics and here Vince's after action report

Gunner

 

[blacksnapon]

 

[blacksnapon]

here's another

 

[blacksnapon]

one more

 

[O'Rattlecan]

how long did it end up taking you, vince?

Ryan

 

[6L PWR]

Hmmm, so that's what it'd look like with a 40" lift and 48" mudders huh? I'll take one. ROFLMAO

 

[04Xcursion]

Great pics vince, looks like the cab lift went pretty smoothly; sure looks like it reduces the amount of skin you leave on a truck when doing any engine service.