76 F350 instrument cluster

[thadleybaxter]

does anyone have knowledge as to whether a gauged instrument cluster from a 1978 F250 would be a matched replacement for the 1976 F350 cluster, maintaining same points of contacts for dash lights etc, with OEM 76' electrical connector?

 

[Evan's f250]

I believe the 73-76 gauges are the same, with 77-79 being different. This is what I've been told, If not, I would be putting the 76 cluster that I have in my truck. I have 2 73-76 clusters

 

[Jolly Green]

If your truck has the oil and amp gauges you must swap in a cluster with oil and amp gauges. Likewise, if it has idiot lights, you must swap one in with idiot lights. The harness is different.

 

[dakonthemountain]

Doesn't some of the 78-79s also have a "low fuel economy" light?., or is that just for the econoline vans?

Dak

 

[Jolly Green]

I thought low fuel economy was just a given with these trucks! Who needs a light to tell you that?

 

[Mil1ion]

" 1978 F250 would be a matched replacement for the 1976 F350 cluster,"


No. but one from a 75 or 77 will work

So many things changed in 78

 

[Mil1ion]

I believe the 73-76 gauges are the same, with 77-79 being different. This is what I've been told, If not, I would be putting the 76 cluster that I have in my truck. I have 2 73-76 clusters

Not quite true.

There ARE VARIABLES in the 74's

 

[Mil1ion]

Doesn't some of the 78-79s also have a "low fuel economy" light?., or is that just for the econoline vans?

Dak

79's have this. Never seen one in a 78.

I have one from a 79 in my garage

 

[Alvin in AZ]

79's have this. Never seen one in a 78.
I have one from a 79 in my garage

My '75 had one and I took the light bulb out and blacked-out
the window while it was still under warranty. LOL

It'd come on every time I'd shift gears, it wanted the engine
revved up all the time. It was just an indicator of low intake
manifold vacuum and nothing more.

It sucked.

Alvin in AZ

 

[FORDification]

Here's a listing of the circuit boards used on the dentside trucks from the MPC:

WITH GAUGES
'73-'74.................D3TZ-10K843-A
'75......................D5TZ-10K843-A - (Before Ser. W40,001)
'75......................D5TZ-10K843-C - (After Ser. W40,001)
'76-'79.................D6TZ-10K843-B

WITH IDIOT LIGHTS
'73-'75.................D3TZ-10K843-B
'76-'78.................D6TZ-10K843-C
'79......................D9TZ-10K843-A

 

[thadleybaxter]

great source of information, thanks to all...FYI the 78' gauged cluster did match my 76'...now its good to go!

 

[Evan's f250]

great source of information, thanks to all...FYI the 78' gauged cluster did match my 76'...now its good to go!

The 76 had the 100 mph speedo right?

 

[FORDification]

Yes, American trucks up through '77 got a 100 MPH speedometer and '78-'79 had the 85 MPH speedometer. Canadian trucks got a dual-band speedo with a 130 Km.P.H. / 80 M.P.H. face.

 

[Evan's f250]

Here's a listing of the circuit boards used on the dentside trucks from the MPC:

WITH GAUGES
'73-'74.................D3TZ-10K843-A
'75......................D5TZ-10K843-A - (Before Ser. W40,001)
'75......................D5TZ-10K843-C - (After Ser. W40,001)
'76-'79.................D6TZ-10K843-B

WITH IDIOT LIGHTS
'73-'75.................D3TZ-10K843-B
'76-'78.................D6TZ-10K843-C
'79......................D9TZ-10K843-A

I've got one with idiot lights, but the numbers on it are....d3tf-108 ca

the numbers on circit board are d3tf10c956 ca

 

[Evan's f250]

I've got one with idiot lights, but the numbers on it are....d3tf-108 ca

the numbers on circit board are d3tf10c956 ca

any1 know what year this was out of?

 

[Mil1ion]

This is from a 78 with gauges

 

[Mil1ion]

I've got one with idiot lights, but the numbers on it are....d3tf-108 ca

the numbers on circit board are d3tf10c956 ca

That list shown is of Part Numbers not Engineering numbers that are on the part.

 

[BKW]

I've got one with idiot lights, but the numbers on it are....d3tf-108 ca

the numbers on circuit board are D3TZ-10C956-CA

ID Engineering number: D3TF-10C956-CA = Ford part number: D3TZ-10K843-B .. Printed Circuit Board-Use with Oil/Amp Warning (Idiot) Lights / Obsolete

Applications: 1973/75 F100/350 / 1975 Econoline.
------------------------------------------------
Notice the following 'so-called' "Dentside" printed circuit applications:

D6TZ-10K843-B .. Printed Circuit Board-Use with Oil & Amp Gauges / Marked: D6TF-10C956-BA: 1976/79 F100/350 / 1976/91 Econoline / 1978/79 Bronco.

D9TZ-10K843-A .. Printed Circuit Board-Use with Oil & Amp Warning (Idiot) Lights / Marked: D9TF-10C956-AA: 1979 F100/350, Bronco & Econoline / 1980/86 Econoline.

 

[Evan's f250]

ID Engineering number: D3TF-10C956-CA = Ford part number: D3TZ-10K843-B .. Printed Circuit Board-Use with Oil/Amp Warning (Idiot) Lights / Obsolete

Applications: 1973/75 F100/350 / 1975 Econoline.
------------------------------------------------
Notice the following 'so-called' "Dentside" printed circuit applications:

D6TZ-10K843-B .. Printed Circuit Board-Use with Oil & Amp Gauges / Marked: D6TF-10C956-BA: 1976/79 F100/350 / 1976/91 Econoline / 1978/79 Bronco.

D9TZ-10K843-A .. Printed Circuit Board-Use with Oil & Amp Warning (Idiot) Lights / Marked: D9TF-10C956-AA: 1979 F100/350, Bronco & Econoline / 1980/86 Econoline.

Ok, thanks that's what I was wanting Bill. With fordification's information above, it seems I won't be able to put this in my '78?

 

[Alvin in AZ]

...it seems I won't be able to put this in my '78?

If I wanted to put it in your pickup I'd study the differences between
what the pickup has/needs and what the cluster's got and figure out
what would have to be done. The sources of information would first
be the wiring diagrams.

But that's just the way I'd go about it.

Being careful not to "guess" or "hope for the best" on -any- of the
circuits. I'd -know- what was needed and notes taken as I went and
pour over them until I understood every change and how it'd effect
anything else. Same way I did railroad signals. It's a cool game
or puzzle to work out and just for the "fun" of it, I'd do it -> 100% <-
correct the first time.

It's all in your attitude, no kidding.

Alvin in AZ
ps- Working on scanning stuff for the ALT gauge swap right now.