GM Inflates Chevy Volt Stats With Fleet Sales

[Blue Goose]

CAVUTO: Volt sales inflated with taxpayer fleet buys...

December 19, 2011- Mark Modica, an Associate Fellow of the National Legal and Policy Center, discusses GM's apparent goosing of Chevy Volt sales figures. Mark is interviewed by Neil Cavuto on the Fox News Channel.

 

[5.0Flareside]

not a surprise....

 

[LEB Ben]

Anyone seen the Leaf commercial where it states 19,000 owners traveled 32MM miles. That's a shade less than 1700 miles per owner. Is that really something to brag about??? I put that many miles on the Lincoln in 15 days.

 

[CaFordDude]

Ford did the same thing with their golf cart type car to help get them under the emissions cap. They were giving them away to cities asking only that they register them which helped lower their over emissions. The city of San Diego got 2000 of them. Los Angeles got some obscene number like 10000

 

[O'Rattlecan]

SWEET. CAFE standards work really well.

Ryan

 

[polarbear]

The laws of unintended consequences still rule the earth.

On a side note, I've yet to see a Volt up close in person.

 

[O'Rattlecan]

I've seen a leaf, but not a volt.

Ryan

 

[5.0Flareside]

ive seen several leaf's... just down the road from a HUGE Nissan Plant, and near some big time nissan dealers...

but no Volts...

 

[DNFXDLI]

Let's face it...that POS company is going to anything they can to make it appear that they are the supreme automotive company.

 

[polarbear]

Let's face it...that POS company is going to anything they can to make it appear that they are the supreme automotive company.

And to be fair, the war between the great and the goofy still rages on inside GM. The same company that brought you the Volt also brought you the Cadillac CTS-V and the Corvette ZR1.

 

[DNFXDLI]

That company should have been left to wallow in the mire it created and left to die.

 

[polarbear]

But it wasn't- so we'll all just have to get over it and move on.

 

[DNFXDLI]

I will never get over it and will continue to voice my feelings on the matter. I despise the company in all aspects.

 

[polarbear]

You're certainly entitled to your opinion. All political BS aside, the fact remains that one out of every six jobs in the USA is somehow connected to the car industry- either in the supply, manufacturing, distribution, sales, or servicing side of the equation. Think about that- one out of every six. If the largest car manufacturer on the planet vanished, what would our unemployment numbers look like?

And another little tidbit- for all those people that work directly or indirectly for the car industry, nothing would happen if someone didn't actually sell a damned car. Which puts the sales side of the business into perspective as well.

 

[DNFXDLI]

Just as you are entitled to your opinion. You can quantify and justify all you want but nothing will ever change what has happened and the description you gave is indicitive of the attitude about companies that are "too big to fail" so must be saved at any cost.
If the largest, greatest car company in the world failed, it would simply mean more Ford's on the road, which would make me very happy

 

[polarbear]

Just as you are entitled to your opinion. You can quantify and justify all you want but nothing will ever change what has happened and the description you gave is indicitive of the attitude about companies that are "too big to fail" so must be saved at any cost.
If the largest, greatest car company in the world failed, it would simply mean more Ford's on the road, which would make me very happy

Maybe... and maybe not. GM going down would have taken a number of suppliers down with them. Suppliers that also supply the Blue Oval, among others. The more likely scenerio would have been GM fails, Ford experiences production cutbacks because of supplier issues, and the Asian and European brands (that you love so much ) would have been the ultimate winners. Things are never as simple as they appear on the surface. Who would've believed that a tsunami in Japan would leave the Koreans with a giant piece of market share dumped in their laps?

Of course, GM could've gone the Chrysler route, and become an arm of an import manufacturer. Again.

 

[DNFXDLI]

I guess we will never know as it is obvious that our respective Govt's will just keep throwing our tax dollars around in any way they see fit and bailing out whatever needs bailing out.

 

[O'Rattlecan]

No company that big just 'vanishes' upon bankruptcy. I think that's the point everyone always ignores.

Ryan

 

[DNFXDLI]

No company that big just 'vanishes' upon bankruptcy. I think that's the point everyone always ignores.

Ryan

Very true, I often overlook that fact as my contempt gets in the way of ratinal thought

 

[polarbear]

Very true, I often overlook that fact as my contempt gets in the way of ratinal thought

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