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1995 F250 7.5 surging and MPG horrible

Venturemmltd

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A year ago I was getting upwards of 8mpg pulling my boat, but one day everything went downhill. It ran just fine when cold, but then started surging at light throttle after it got warm and the MPG went to about 2. I replaced the ACT and HEGO with no change, then began looking at vacuum leaks, etc.
Found a slight open on the tps, so replaced that as well, but still no change in MPG or surge.
Replaced the timing chain and gears.
Replaced cap, rotor, wires, and plugs.
Checked compression and all good with less than 5% differential.
Figured the previous owner hadn't changed virtually any of the sensors in all of the 220k miles, so went ahead and replaced the EGR, EVP, CTS, pressure regulator, and even the injectors, thinking there may have been one leaking.
Vacuum is great in both open and closed loops, and I sprayed the entire engine with some good intake cleaner with no change in RPM or vacuum.
I then bought a Rotunda monitor and went through every test I could find, but the only problem was the HEGO running at .9 constantly after it warmed up. So I figure the surge is probably a lean miss since the HEGO is reading rich...?
I plugged the purge line, thinking it might be stuck open, but still no change!
I then connected a permanent fuel pressure gauge to the rail with the power going directly to the battery and found that the max pressure was 30psi (low) and after the truck warmed up it went to a max pressure of about 20. Also, when turning on the blower switch, it would drop as low as 10psi. Now I'm wondering if I've got a ground problem somewhere that's affecting the ECM. Ran new ground wires from the frame to engine, battery to frame, everywhere I could think of, and still no change. This is driving me nuts! Only good thing is that the truck is paid for, it's a 4x4, and only cost me $1,100.00 to begin with, so I don't mind putting the money into it. Can anyone think of something I might have missed??? I'm in Round Rock, Tx and thanks for the great forum!
 

Venturemmltd

Texas Chapter member
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Fuel pump(s)

Well, if your charging system is in good condition, I'd say you might need a fuel pump...

Replaced both fuel pumps as well. Two different brands to make sure I didn't have a couple of bad ones from the factory. Same results.
Ran a fuel pressure gauge directly from the outlet on both pumps with direct 12v current and they're both putting out about 60psi.
 
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One other thing to try is inducing a vacuum leak by pulling off a hose and watch your O2 sensor reading it should go lean or at least try, you might have a bad sensor.
 

Venturemmltd

Texas Chapter member
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Common ground somewhere under the dash for all interior electronics

The one thing that's really bothering me about all of this is the blower motor taking so much current from the fuel pumps. Doesn't seem to be any common denominator other than possibly the ground somewhere under the dash. This could be where all of my problems are coming from. I've replaced the blower motor and resistance is within spec's, so it's not the motor itself. Does anyone know exactly where everything is grounded from within the cab? I understand it's ground F in the shop manual, but it doesn't say exactly where it is and I haven't been able to locate. This truck does have a bit of rust, so it's possible there is corrosion at that point....
 
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It might be a good idea to check all wiring that you can between the cab and fuel tanks and see if any thing looks suspicious. Look for connectors that might be rough looking unplug them and see if any of the terminals are corroded. Also check the voltage going to the fuel pumps see if it is losing the supply volts when it gets to where it has low fuel pressure. Running the specs for fuel pressure is 30 to 40psi. If you can use a volt meter and check ground circuits for high resistance. Sounds like you have ground issues or the voltage is dropping.
 

primetime

sawmill slave
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Onaway Michigan
You are probably right on the ground. I don`t know where it is though. Just out of curiosity, have you checked voltage on both sides of your inertia switch? I had one go bad once. I ran a new ground wire on a Taurus fuel pump once to fix a low voltage problem. Butch I know, but it got her back on the road. Come to think of it, did it on an S-10 for a dude at work also.
 

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