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[DNFXDLI]

Any of you guys use aftermarket starters on these engines?...and what have you used and how have they been?....I'm a bit concerned with the CR I'll have.

 

[1985 Ford F-150]

Whats the CR on it Duncan?

 

[DNFXDLI]

11.5:1 and will be producing about 220# compression...11.44:1 to be exact

 

[LEB Ben]

Read this thread:

http://www.fordtruckfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12098



Usually I go with motorcraft...but that's a stock application.

 

[1985 Ford F-150]

Id try the old stocker and if it frys it then get a high torque one.

 

[DNFXDLI]

Read this thread:

http://www.fordtruckfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12098



Usually I go with motorcraft...but that's a stock application.

Thanks Ben

Id try the old stocker and if it frys it then get a high torque one.

Dan...I don't wanna have to crawl back underneath the damn thing after it's in....I remember too well my old 396 with the stock starter after it got hot.

 

[LEB Ben]

Dan...with the extra heat, he'll be frying starters left and right. But as stated, if he does try a stock unit, go motorcraft. After that, I'm not too sure about high end starters...but the one that I linked to seems to be pretty respectable and I'd still advise fabbing up a heat shield.

 

[1985 Ford F-150]

Id fab a heat shield either way. You could also do what Lee suggested in that thread and get a later model 460 starter thats gear reduction.

 

[DNFXDLI]

I've had good luck with Hitachi starters years ago...I'm gonna have to do some investigating.

 

[DNFXDLI]

I'm gonna use this for a battery:

http://www.lifelinebatteries.com/rvflyer.php?id=12

 

[1985 Ford F-150]

Hmm never heard of em I use Napa Legend batteries and theyre great I got one in the truck and the jeep.

 

[LEB Ben]

Damn Duncan...all I have to say is after what you've put into this truck and the upcoming accessories, this build is top notch.

 

[DNFXDLI]

Hmm never heard of em I use Napa Legend batteries and theyre great I got one in the truck and the jeep.

They are the best made battery period...AGM.

Damn Duncan...all I have to say is after what you've put into this truck and the upcoming accessories, this build is top notch.

Thanks Ben....I try to do things as best I am able

 

[DNFXDLI]

Here is the parts/cost breakdown:


Extreme duty pin chain 152.00
Rocker arm studs (set) 36.99
3V-225 cylinder heads (pair) 1575.00
Intake CHI 500.00
Hydraulic roller cam 255.09
ID spring seat 32.00
11/32 super lock (16) 23.79
Cam bearing set 14.05
Wrist pin bushings (8) 56.00
Oil pump 30.91
Brass expansion plug 6.41
Supplies & Haz. waste charge 24.22
Parts freight charge 88.00
Rod bearing set 29.00
Main bearing set 32.00
Set spring height labor 66.27
Special valve job labor 99.41
Increase pin bushing size (8) labor 257.68
Special rod grinding labor 104.36
Engine balancing-external 314.14
Machine piston dish (8) 131.20
Hydraulic lifters w/tie bars (set) 350.00
Steel retainers (16) 52.00
Brass expansion plug set 6.41
Woodruff key (3) 1.50
Harmonic balancer 74.99
Spacer 18.29
Intake gasket set 22.05
Stroker crank 589.26
H beam rods (8) 545.00
Flexplate 45.00
Intake valves (8) 140.40
Exhaust valves (8) 156.00
Roller rockers (set) 226.24
Guide plates (8) 32.81
Forged stroker pistons (8) 515.00
Plasma moly ring (set) 119.00
Valve springs (set) 132.32
Seals (16) 32.00
ARP main stud set 61.99
Head gasket high temp 68.09
Conversion set 25.04
Intake gasket for CHI heads 39.90
Shipping to MT 190.80

Total 7273.31

 

[TexasNomad]

I wonder how much for a turn key...

 

[DNFXDLI]

I don't know Tex....I'm using my block that I have here and getting the block machined here...I wouldn't think it would a whole lot more....I did tell Tim about this site, so hopefully he will be along to maybe answer questions.

 

[LEB Ben]

Thanks Duncan...very cool. Looks like the big money was in the heads and beefing up the components to handle the power.


Mike...pretty sure you can add another 3k on top of that for a turnkey shipped to your door.

 

[DNFXDLI]

Thanks Duncan...very cool.


Mike...pretty sure you can add another 3k on top of that for a turnkey shipped to your door.

Thanks Ben...I tried to copy it, but with my limited old man skills, I couldn't.
I don't think it would be that much Ben...Tim and I talked about it at the beginning and I don't recall it being that much...I think a machined block was about $500...and I wouldn't think that there would be more than 20 hours labor to put it together...I would think another 1800-2000...but don't take this as verbatim...I could be way off....I'm just going of memory of something I didn't pay a lot of attention of.

 

[LEB Ben]

Yeah D...I was figuring block plus labor=$2500...then shipping 450lbs is probably another 2-500 depending on who ships it.

 

[TexasNomad]

I don't know Tex....I'm using my block that I have here and getting the block machined here...I wouldn't think it would a whole lot more....I did tell Tim about this site, so hopefully he will be along to maybe answer questions.

HOt damn that would awesome if Tim came here.

Mike...pretty sure you can add another 3k on top of that for a turnkey shipped to your door.

Hmm, thats kinda high for a turn key, but then again he is the master of the 400 and I think it would be well worth it.