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Pontiac gets the go-ahead

Raptor22

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What I want is one of those Ford of Australia 400+HP 3.9L I6 engines (based on the same arch as the legendary 300). :cool:

That would be boss.


I like the pontiac btw. Looks like the G8 with a pickup bed. I dont see why Chevy doesnt make an El Camino version, while pontiac makes a Trans Am out of the camaro... it doesnt seem that hard...
 
john112deere

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Raptor22 said:
I like the pontiac btw. Looks like the G8 with a pickup bed. I dont see why Chevy doesnt make an El Camino version, while pontiac makes a Trans Am out of the camaro... it doesnt seem that hard...
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IMO, two, fundamentally identical, models won't sell very many more copies than one model, but badging it as a Chevy and tapping into El Camino nostalgia would probably have been a smarter move than what they're doing.
 

DOHCmarauder

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Raptor22 said:
What I want is one of those Ford of Australia 400+HP 3.9L I6 engines (based on the same arch as the legendary 300). :cool:

That would be boss.
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The 4.0L DOHC turbo puts out 270KW (about 360HP) compared to the N/A 5.4's 290KW (about 390HP)

Please school me on how the 4.0L DOHC is related to the old 4.9L pushrod truck motor.
 
Raptor22

Raptor22

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DOHCmarauder said:
The 4.0L DOHC turbo puts out 270KW (about 360HP) compared to the N/A 5.4's 290KW (about 390HP)

Please school me on how the 4.0L DOHC is related to the old 4.9L pushrod truck motor.
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Both engines date back to the 240ci (3.9L) car and truck 6cyl from the 60s and 70s. In the truck line a longer stoke was added thus creating the 300 (4.9L).

In the cars however the technology was taken in a totally separate direction towards high tech improvements and general evolution. This included a migration towards SOHC technology, which was eventually replaced with 24v DOHC cylinder head (the 4.0L "barra").

To answer your question: Call them distant cousins.
 

DOHCmarauder

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Skandocious said:
Eh no... The 2nd gen lightning had a blown triton 5.4
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Whoa there Nelly......How did the Lightning get into this conversation???


I've read and re-read that post and I could swear that he was intimating the Falcon Ute used a blown 5.4.


As I'm sure you already know, the Lightning 5.4 was the SOHC 2 valve mill.

The Falcon uses the DOHC version.
 
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DOHCmarauder

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Raptor22 said:
Both engines date back to the 240ci (3.9L) car and truck 6cyl from the 60s and 70s. In the truck line a longer stoke was added thus creating the 300 (4.9L).

In the cars however the technology was taken in a totally separate direction towards high tech improvements and general evolution. This included a migration towards SOHC technology, which was eventually replaced with 24v DOHC cylinder head (the 4.0L "barra").

To answer your question: Call them distant cousins.
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I'm not sure the car motors (170-200-240;) are related to the agricultural 7 main bearing 300.

But yes, I'll agree the Falcon I-6 is related to the car I-6's you mentioned.
 
BKW

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DOHCmarauder said:
I'm not sure the car motors (170-200-240;) are related to the agricultural 7 main bearing 300.

But yes, I'll agree the Falcon I-6 is related to the car I-6's you mentioned.
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240 & 300 introduced in 1965. The full sized Ford's used the 240 thru 1972, but never used the 300.

The 144/170 I-6's have 4 main bearings, the 200 & 250 have 7.
 

DOHCmarauder

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BKW said:
240 & 300 introduced in 1965. The full sized Ford's used the 240 thru 1972, but never used the 300.

The 144/170 I-6's have 4 main bearings, the 200 & 250 have 7.
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Do you mean the 250 and 300 have 7 main bearings???


Either way, the I-6's from Oz do NOT use the prone to whip at high RPM and friction laden 7 main crank.
 
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mrfixit

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Blown is also Todd's engine....
AFTER the turbo and LPOP fragged.
 
Skandocious

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Sorry DOHC, but I agree with Ryan here... I always knew a blown engine to be SUPERcharged... Not just forced induction in general.
 

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