Kaajot
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Hi all-
I just spent a great 11 hours broken down in the F-700 but avoided tow. Was going to my friend's place to install new 90a Alternator on the truck and pulled into Fast Trac to get gas. Well, it didn't start up after I filled up the tank. Niiiiice.
Friend came to me, we pulled the F-700 to Runnings Parking Lot but he managed to jump it while I was towing the F-700 with his plow truck. So that worked, but battery was dead.
Anyway, we actually pulled out the old OEM alternator and installed an enhanced larger 90a by Wilson Alternators. Added new hardware with neverseize and we were gonna change the belt except another belt would have to come off first, so the original belt stayed but we got it even a little more taught than original and looked to be in serviceable condition and no oil or cracks on it, frays, etc.
Meanwhile, battery was charging too and once the alternator was installed (about 9:00 pm that night) we were able to turn on the truck and all its low power symptoms went away (flashers and directionals were not working prior if I turned on headlights, etc -- now I know what a low power indication looks like, it's been a minute).
However, rather than heading home right away I sipped a coffee and then tried to take off. The darn thing died at the stop light at 10 pm once I got out of the gas station parking lot I had idled in. Darnit.
I got a rope tow from a really nice gent and a police officer pulled out to make sure nobody tried to hit us as we crossed the intersection and got myself safely parked in Walmart's no-overnights-allowed parking. ^_^
I was pretty sure I had ordered a starter (installed), alternator (60a Remy backup behind the bench seat) and a voltage regulator. I found it, brand new. Realized this might be the other problem. Well, I looked in the hood and yep the voltage regulator was old looking. Unsure if it's OEM or not, but I found something peculiar as I examined it.
The new VR has IASF (Ignition, alt/bat, stator, f-whatever) but the alt/bat was cut off. Now, that sounds like a good way to eliminate the alternator. HOW/WHY that is possibly cut off is beyond me. I've heard of eliminating the Stator per Google Research, or maybe the I-gnition? But the alt/bat?!?
On the bat connection of both old and new alternator installed I had two thick eyelets and on the Stator and F-whatever I had one each. I am 99% positive the S and F were wired correctly as I took a picture pre-removal and figured out on the old alternator which was the S and the F, plus when I looked at the old voltage regulator I found the orange/green did go to the F and the Red small wire did go to the S.
Is there any feasible way this VR that's installed can be working with the A not connected? And I looked for dangling wires and only can find the A-wire hanging off the Voltage Regulator and then abruptly ending just like several of my rides in the F-700 lately.
I wish I had taken a picture of the VR but did not. I do have a brand new one that I'm keen to install now after I do a few checks on the current VR (found a good test light and multimeter guide on YouTube for older Fords with VRs on how to test these things out). New VR is a good T-Series Standard Motor Products and has that new car look to it.
I'm considering rebuilding all the wiring. The positive/negatives are getting rebuilt already but the S and F look suspect. The I-wire might need help. I haven't scrutinized the I-wire, and well, then there's the A mystery that is culled about 3 inches beyond the A-pin off the Voltage Regulator.
TLDR: Voltage Regulator has A-snipped, how the hell is this a good idea? Should I just bypass and put it directly onto the starter solenoid? Alternator is not providing the 13.93 volts expected -- was about 12.4 when running (and dropping it appears).
Thanks!
-KJ
I just spent a great 11 hours broken down in the F-700 but avoided tow. Was going to my friend's place to install new 90a Alternator on the truck and pulled into Fast Trac to get gas. Well, it didn't start up after I filled up the tank. Niiiiice.
Friend came to me, we pulled the F-700 to Runnings Parking Lot but he managed to jump it while I was towing the F-700 with his plow truck. So that worked, but battery was dead.
Anyway, we actually pulled out the old OEM alternator and installed an enhanced larger 90a by Wilson Alternators. Added new hardware with neverseize and we were gonna change the belt except another belt would have to come off first, so the original belt stayed but we got it even a little more taught than original and looked to be in serviceable condition and no oil or cracks on it, frays, etc.
Meanwhile, battery was charging too and once the alternator was installed (about 9:00 pm that night) we were able to turn on the truck and all its low power symptoms went away (flashers and directionals were not working prior if I turned on headlights, etc -- now I know what a low power indication looks like, it's been a minute).
However, rather than heading home right away I sipped a coffee and then tried to take off. The darn thing died at the stop light at 10 pm once I got out of the gas station parking lot I had idled in. Darnit.
I got a rope tow from a really nice gent and a police officer pulled out to make sure nobody tried to hit us as we crossed the intersection and got myself safely parked in Walmart's no-overnights-allowed parking. ^_^
I was pretty sure I had ordered a starter (installed), alternator (60a Remy backup behind the bench seat) and a voltage regulator. I found it, brand new. Realized this might be the other problem. Well, I looked in the hood and yep the voltage regulator was old looking. Unsure if it's OEM or not, but I found something peculiar as I examined it.
The new VR has IASF (Ignition, alt/bat, stator, f-whatever) but the alt/bat was cut off. Now, that sounds like a good way to eliminate the alternator. HOW/WHY that is possibly cut off is beyond me. I've heard of eliminating the Stator per Google Research, or maybe the I-gnition? But the alt/bat?!?
On the bat connection of both old and new alternator installed I had two thick eyelets and on the Stator and F-whatever I had one each. I am 99% positive the S and F were wired correctly as I took a picture pre-removal and figured out on the old alternator which was the S and the F, plus when I looked at the old voltage regulator I found the orange/green did go to the F and the Red small wire did go to the S.
Is there any feasible way this VR that's installed can be working with the A not connected? And I looked for dangling wires and only can find the A-wire hanging off the Voltage Regulator and then abruptly ending just like several of my rides in the F-700 lately.
I wish I had taken a picture of the VR but did not. I do have a brand new one that I'm keen to install now after I do a few checks on the current VR (found a good test light and multimeter guide on YouTube for older Fords with VRs on how to test these things out). New VR is a good T-Series Standard Motor Products and has that new car look to it.
I'm considering rebuilding all the wiring. The positive/negatives are getting rebuilt already but the S and F look suspect. The I-wire might need help. I haven't scrutinized the I-wire, and well, then there's the A mystery that is culled about 3 inches beyond the A-pin off the Voltage Regulator.
TLDR: Voltage Regulator has A-snipped, how the hell is this a good idea? Should I just bypass and put it directly onto the starter solenoid? Alternator is not providing the 13.93 volts expected -- was about 12.4 when running (and dropping it appears).
Thanks!
-KJ