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  1. truckdog62563

    F3 motor and trans Info

    No pictures here. My build thread is over on the FTE forum, but I’m having to decide whether I’m a body man/painter or not. The chassis and welding are done but bodywork isn’t. Stuhttps://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1289482-restoration-progress-52-f-3-marmon-herrington-with-215-engine-2.html
  2. truckdog62563

    F3 motor and trans Info

    Yours doesn’t look like his because yours is a 51 while his is a 52. If the 6s you are getting with the truck are the flathead type 226s they will mount to your chassis in the forward set of mount holes. You will have to move the radiator to the forward mounting holes. If the engines are later...
  3. truckdog62563

    1950 trans options

    Hmmm, I’m surprised Van Pelt doesn’t have the parts. Next idea is to check with Chuck Mantiglia at Chuck’s Trucks in CT. IIRC he told me he has converted one of his own half ton trucks to the 3HD transmission that is synchro on 2nd and 3rd gear. Stuhttp://www.chuckstrucksllc.com/startframe.htm
  4. truckdog62563

    1950 trans options

    Van Pelt will have your parts. Stuhttp://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/trans-partsprices-pg1.htm
  5. truckdog62563

    My 1950 F3 Bread Truck

    Your Parcel Delivery is not an F-3, it’s an F-5 based model. Its Budd type 5 lug x 8” pattern, dually rears, and most likely a 134” wheelbase are the give aways. The column shift was original on these trucks operating the 3HD tranny. And according to James Wagner in his Ford Trucks Since...
  6. truckdog62563

    Wow....wonder how much he wants for this thing!

    I was a bit surprised that it met reserve and sold. So often eBay listings are intended to test, or create, the market. Hopefully the truck doesn't disappear into a collection never to be seen again. Stu
  7. truckdog62563

    Wow....wonder how much he wants for this thing!

    Could be testing the market, or could be aiming at a world market. I recall a conversation I had with Rod where he mentioned a restored truck years ago that was purchased for serious money and taken to the one of the middle eastern oil producing countries. To me there are things that should be...
  8. truckdog62563

    Wow....wonder how much he wants for this thing!

    "Rather rare"? I have the archive of known 51/52 F-2/F-3 Marmon Herrington conversions. There are five F-2s, five, CA, WY, UT, SD, and the eBay one in MI. This truck came from Rod Kruithoff's amazing M-H collection. I've spent time on my back under this truck studying for the restorations of...
  9. truckdog62563

    Widow Maker Rims

    There were two 17.5" x 5.25" wheels, both look exactly alike to my eye. Budd numbers 70720 and 73240. These use 8R17.5" radials or 8-17.5" bias ply tires that are about 32" tall. This tire diameter is similar to a 7.50 x 16" bias tube type or a 235/85R16" radial.These 19.5" and 17.5"...
  10. truckdog62563

    Widow Maker Rims

    First I'll say welcome. Glad to see another F-3 being saved. Like Havi said there are alternatives to the 17" widow makers that came on our trucks. The alternative you do not want is continuing them in service.The early F-3s (48-mid 51) have 14" rear drums. These prevent the use of...
  11. truckdog62563

    1950 f3

    All F-3s from 48 to early 51 had 14" rear drums. That's why the trucks came with 17" wheels while F-2s had 12" drums and 16" wheels. Modern 16" wheels will not clear the 14" drums in most cases. Ford switched to 12" Bendix mid 51 and 52. Any 16" F-250 wheel 1996 and earlier fits. Stu
  12. truckdog62563

    Newbie member looking for help!

    Not exactly. Besides length, 122" vs 114", which I know Havi wasn't suggesting as being the same, wall thickness and "C" channel depth are slightly greater on F-2/3s than on the F-1s. F-2/3 is 6.0" x 2.25" x 0.19" while the F-1 is 5.92" x 2.25" x 0.15". Other aspects are shared such as front...
  13. truckdog62563

    Newbie member looking for help!

    That'd make life somewhat more simple, I agree. Stu
  14. truckdog62563

    Newbie member looking for help!

    Another rear axle fix is to install custom 4.11s that are available from Chuck's Trucks in CT. Here's a discussion thread from the FTE site where another UK owner made this swap. As for widow maker 17s, so much has been written, and pictures posted, I'd suggest doing a Google search of my user...
  15. truckdog62563

    Newbie member looking for help!

    If I may add to or modify Tim's point in favor of an F-2 over F-3. Any F-2 will be a good choice, I agree. The early F-3s, 1948 to early 1951, have 14" rear brake drums that necessitated the 17" widow maker wheels which must be replaced. In late 1951 Ford converted the F-3s to 12" rear...
  16. truckdog62563

    New member and Canadian serial number

    Those stock 17" widow maker wheels should be replaced. Replacements are out there and will depend on whether you have the 14" drums supplied in early '51 or 12" supplied in late '51 and '52. The 14" drums won't accept standard 16" F-2/F-250 wheels, but the 12" drums will. If you have 14"...
  17. truckdog62563

    1st post

    Add my welcome. This is a real good group, you'll get lots of good input here. Besides my Fords, I'm a closet Dodge (not Ram!) guy too. That B1PW126 project out in the barn calls me every so often.
  18. truckdog62563

    New 51 Ford F1 Project

    Welcome. Truck frames were all 34" wide through 1972. So an F-100 or F-150 axle should be a bolt in swap. Something I've read sticks in my head that complicates the '72 swap. I don't recall what it is but don't think it's a deal breaker. Good luck with your project. Love the '51 and '52s. Stu
  19. truckdog62563

    drivetrain combos?

    Scott - if it was me I'd put it in the one that would get the most use the soonest. Then decide it you like the swap well enough to do it to both. Stu
  20. truckdog62563

    I am “Sending out an S.O.S” re: Rad support.

    Does it help to know that the 6 cylinder core support holes are exactly three inches forward of the V8 holes in the front cross member? My inner fender panels are buried out in the barn, and cold too. That measurement is center to center of the holes. I checked it on my project truck frame...
  21. truckdog62563

    1951 F-1 Pickup and Panel Charts and Data

    Well, yeah, I can send them. But wouldn't it be easier for you to just right click then highlight the "save picture as" option to save them to your computer. Stu
  22. truckdog62563

    Bonus built paint colors?

    The closest of the '51 standard colors would be Silvertown Gray or Grey, not sure which. I have two '51 project trucks that were this color originally and it looks more blue than gray IMHO. It wouldn't be confused for white I don't think. Stu
  23. truckdog62563

    Bonus built paint colors?

    White wasn't one of the standard colors in '51 or '52. But could have been a fleet color. Late '51 and '52 data plates give the color codes for the trucks. An "SS" for special paint would signify a fleet color. Early '51 might have a color code on the cowl stamping to my understanding. But...
  24. truckdog62563

    Hello from KY

    Hi Doc, my welcome too. Sorry to have missed Truckstock, hope you've recovered. Stu
  25. truckdog62563

    New to the forum

    And ya know, fool that I am, I didn't save that part. Go figure!As nasty as the thing looks, it had rust free rear cab corners which I saved, good grille, Magic Air heater and tubes, and misc other stuff. So maybe some of those bits will go back on it when its turn comes.I mentioned...
  26. truckdog62563

    New to the forum

    Maybe this is hijacking but, on the topic of saving old wrecks from the crusher, I have no illusions about what others thought seeing me haul this p.o.s. home from the cannons of southern Oregon. Felt like I was living a scene from Deliverance! Plus, I was then very self conscious parking it...
  27. truckdog62563

    Wheel Solution Help

    Wayne pretty much said it, but I'll add a little. The early 14" F-3 rear brakes were changed to 12" Bendix in mid '51. Any '97 and earlier F-250 HD wheel will fit, as will more modern Dodge 3/4 ton 16s and 17s. To use the stock hub caps there are a few options. One is to find original 16"...
  28. truckdog62563

    New to the forum

    I'll add my welcome. Great story of your rescue of the truck. I too have greatest interest in the F-2s and F-3s. For many they are under appreciated, but were in truth the workhorse of the pickup line. Good to see another being saved. Stu
  29. truckdog62563

    3rd gen 142" WB trucks

    Scott - check the SD Craigslist. There's a running '57 F-500 that looks to be a 142" listed in Mobridge for $1250 asking. IMHO a '57 is the best one to have. I'd do a link but don't think I can do that from the phone. Stu
  30. truckdog62563

    3rd gen 142" WB trucks

    Scott - I'll be going up to SD tomorrow night with a buddy that is picking up a car, and while in the neighborhood will also do a parts swap with Mark, Thundersnow70. I'll then spend most of Saturday morning at Mark's favorite yard. I'll have my tape measure with me and will see what I can...
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