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Old 06-15-2009, 10:42 PM
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Short term energy solution

I have been thinking about all the technology out there as far as energy independence from the middle east is concerned. The only one that excites me is CNG. (compressed natural gas) Ethanol and Bio Diesel need subsudies to compete head to head with their petroleum counterparts. Hydrogen fuel cells creates a logistical nightmare. Natural Gas is everywhere. Fueling stations could be installed at your house if you have gas service. Pipelines that have ben in service forever, are already in place. With the discoveries of the Fayette, Barnett, Marcelles, Haynseville, and Bossier shales, we have a ton of gas that is "found" but has no market for. Therefore depressing the price. When gasoline was $4+ a gallon and gas was at $9mcf, the equivilant would have been around $2.80 per gallon mark. Gas is now half of what it was then which would put it at the $1.60 mark right now. Sound good to anyone? There are systems that are true "dual fuel" meaning that the vehicle can run off of gasoline and or CNG without any input from the driver. All automatic.
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So when does Ford implement this option?

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Good question. The only problem or drawback is the space (physical dimmentions) of the tanks. Which means a vehicle has to be designed around the fuel tanks. Retrofits on larger vehicles is easy as fas as space under the vehicle, or voids. The only problem I see for Ford is the money crunch they are in. As much as I hate T. Boone Pickens, he actually has a real and viable short term solution. Problem is Obama and the new Kenny Boy (Salazar) don't want to produce energy we have here. So I guess Ford needs to start designing sails to put on the new vehicles. That way we can use wind power.
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Little windmills like on those beanie caps.

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Old 06-15-2009, 11:16 PM
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Little windmills like on those beanie caps.

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Yeah but with all the hot air from the current administration, they appearantly work just fine on there cars.
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Maybe Ford can find a way to fuel their cars off of Obamas hot air and Bidens gaffes..
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ford has several bi fuel vehicles out right now you can go down to a ford dealer and order most any truck that runs off of cng and gasoline the only down fall is the size of tanks they are both small and refuel stations arent eveyrwhere the ones for your house are expensive 3 to 5 grand there are also several conversion kits for the ford trucks out there you can get full conversion kits or split you get more miles between fuel ups if you do the full conversion me and a friend researched it last year there is also a tax rebate for switching over to cng and the savings on the fuel cost will pay for the conversion (after a few years)
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Well update time. We have 2 CNG fueling stations in the area now, and currently they are buildig a 3rd 2 blocks from my house. Most of the gas companies here are converting their fleets over to CNG.

I got a chance to talk to a guy driving one a few weeks ago while getting my oil changed. Late model Chevy LWB 4X4 13 gallon CNG tank he is getting 250 miles per tank, that is 19 MPG. Cost of 13 gallons of CNG here in Shreveport $22.75. or $1.75 per gallon. Its even cheaper if you get a compressor and fuel from your house. The other station in Coushatta is at $2.11 so it would be $27.43.

Roughly double the figures of what your current tank capacity (20-30 gallon tanks on half ton pickups anyway)

Capacity right now is the problem, but as I said before, its a ton easier to design the car to fit the tank, not the other way around. A 13 gallon tank takes up roughly the space of a truck bed tool box.

Waiting until they come out with a true dual fuel conversion for diesel.
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I could get into that kind of pricing. How much potential energy in a gallon of CNG vs. gasoline? Like 80%? 90%?

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