So Travis found a saginaw PS pump for me and shipped it 3 or 4 weeks ago. Meanwhile we thought it had gotten lost in the mail but it FINALLY showed up this week. Wouldn't you know that the official grabber green spokesperson of FTF took it upon himself to... well... have a look








Pump looks good I'm excited for this swap. I'll [hopefully] get it all installed tomorrow and I'll try to take pictures so I can do a pseudo tech writeup.

wow i guess it did have a bit of residual fluid left in the pump. i hope it works out for ya!

What the so called upgrade to a sag pump?

it wont wine like a little *****.

No Josh what you're hearing is Chris......my pump don't whine...hey Chris you should just make it ram assist....that wouldn't be hard at all....

Ha, awesome Chris. How was the traffic?

Junior, these Ford pumps are pretty notorious for whining. My 94 whined. My 95 whines. Ricks 95 whines. Even Travis's pump whines and he just replaced it last year. It's not necessarily the sign of a bad pump-- it's just IRRITATING.

The reason why I finally chose to do the swap is because my PS pump is leaking like a sieve and the cost of this sag pump isn't any more than a regular stock replacement. It's a much more powerful pump-- the guys on the snow trip who had swapped to a sag pump since the previous snow trip were saying that the snow tracks weren't pushing them around nearly as much; the truck was going where the steering wheel TOLD it to go. I had the issue with the snow tracks basically locking me into a path like a train, very little control over my direction.

It's a very common mod on FSB. Run a search over there for "sag" or "saginaw" and you'll get TONS of threads. I helped Rick swap in his sag pump and after that I just HAD to have it. He fired it up and it was SILENT. Then I turned the wheel and was amazed-- the truck (with 35" BFG M/Ts) was parked on grass/dirt, and without moving forward or back I would spin the entire wheel from lock-to-lock with only my pinky finger. The extra power is not a myth.

nobodyspecial said:

it wont wine like a little *****.

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Well at lest his truck will be a little quieter now..

LUCKY....
I am still looking for one.

truckin4life said:

LUCKY....
I am still looking for one.

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if i find another one ill let ya know :

SWEET!
that would be awesome, cause i cant find one anywhere around here.

truckin4life said:

SWEET!
that would be awesome, cause i cant find one anywhere around here.

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only thing i n eed to know is do you have AC or not?. i know you have a 351 but having a/c and not makes a big difference i the bracket. unfortunately i dont think the junkyard we have near me has anymore left in the vans but ill check again monday and report back.

Yea i have ac...
If not no biggie, i will just hurry up and wait awhile longer... .

What model did this particular pump come out of? Was it an econoline?

Ryan

yup the pump and bracket came out of a 94 ford econoline conversion(camper) van.

the pump in the 1989 Didn't whine.. dunno why.. but i wouldn't' know now i sold it with the inline six

Mine is noisier than the engine sometimes... This might be an idea.

Do you have to get different power steering lines or will your current ones work?

You have to get the high pressure line from the vehicle that the pump came out of. The return line on your truck will fit right onto the nipple on the sag pump. The high pressure line on the van that my sag pump came out of was real shabby so I bought a new one. $13 from AutoAnything.com (one of our sponsors). It also requires a slightly longer belt-- 103.75" to be exact.

I just finished the swap and MAN what a difference. The whine is completely gone and I couldn't believe how much powerful the steering is. And it's no placebo-- the difference is not subtle it's VERY big. Turning the wheel with my big heavy truck and 33" tires is now as easy as turning the wheel Trista's little cobalt. It feels like a whole new truck, very responsive to my turning the wheel. I'm 100% satisfied with this swap and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

I took pics and I plan on making a tech thread in a little while.

Sweet man, None of mine whine so im a leave em lol.