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Old 09-04-2007, 10:37 AM
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informative, 04Xcursion. Thanks!

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Old 09-05-2007, 12:16 AM
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Aaron, I will dumb it up for you. No a tuner cannot be traced on a 6.0 if certain steps are taken. Yes good techs can speculate or guess that they were used, but only if you admit it. Next, for your specific truck, the Xcal II is the top performer and is about as safe as it gets, depending on who tunes it and what you tell them you want. No a tuner is no more dangerous for your truck than if the VGT sticks and overboosts to 40 psi towing a 12k load up the grapevine. Pros and cons to be made by insuing people I am sure, some far more educated than me. When your ready to play, be willing to pay up front, and you will have zero issues. $2500 and a little help from friends and you'll have more fun than is probably legal in CA, oh wait your a cop, scratch that.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:27 PM
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Well now that Matt is here, any specifics, give him a shout, as he knows way more about them that I do.
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:50 AM
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Good tuners, good companies, Bad tuners, Bad companies, detectable, not detectable. Is there such a thing as responsible tuner use. What mods are musts with tuners.
Think you got the "How does it work?" answered
Since we started at the last question, I'll try the next previous

Musts Mods ?

Some say gauges, but I say
ANYTHING other than stock exhausts !!!

gauges will tell you when it gets too hot....
better flowing exhausts will stop it from getting too hot in 99% of the situations

The best is a good mandrel bend full turbo back exhausts (what I did on the 03 Ex),
next is a good mandrel bend cat back exhaust,
and then it gets into opinion...

some say remove the muffler and cat - I won't do that for a few reasons...
(LOUD and $10k federal fine if your are caught

what I did on the 05 Ex was a Walker BTM (Big Truck Muffler) - inexpensive - lifetime warranty - good mellow sound - lowered egt's in the 250 degree range.


Now that you have the output taken care of.... what about the intake since an engine is JUST a big air pump
Some go aftermarket, but I've decided the stock one flows VERY well, filters the best, and last a LONG time...
(DO NOT USE A K&N on a turbo charged deezle !)


Responsible?
Mine is a race tune on an everyday driver....
if you don't use the race portion of it, it's still better than stock !

the perfect tune to me though is:
max hp & torque AND mpg
short shifts when not racing.... (both quick/firm and low rpms - it WILL go 70 mph @ 2K rpms )
get into highest gear when running around in town with traffic going a steady state 40 mph...
(don't need to be in third !)
locked torque converter in 2nd thru 5th
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So far, looking at them from a dealer tech standpoint (are you ready?) Matt is the only one I have seen putting in concerns for engine/trans longevity. All the others have been "Damn the consequences, more HP!", and "Take it off, they'll never know!". When all the efforts are concentrated on only those two, I cant see them doing much for customer satisfaction, and long term happiness.
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Vince, that is the reason why he has the customer base he enjoys. You and I both know that certain parameters of Fords calibrations are detrimental to survival of the entire package. I don't and will not ever expect you publicly agree to that. If you tell Matt where you stand (financial, warranty, ect) he will not steer you wrong. I begged him to go the direction that he is now pursuing with his tuning. So far it is proving a correct guess.
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I guess the first question I have is: Is this a gas or diesel topic?

I think the realms are significantly different enough to warrant a distinction.

I'm going to stay away from the gas side of the equation because I just don't know enough about it. For the diesel side of the equation I can go on for an awfully long time.... But before I do that I want to make sure I'm not hijacking the thread

After he asked that question...I stepped out of this one. I know nothing about diesel engines or their tuning.
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There are some things that can be thought of as "questionable". When they are attempting to balance emissions, fuel economy, longevity, suppliers wants and needs, some decisions can raise more questions than answers. In this world of contracts, I think the package they provide is the best they can offer, under all circumstances. My stand is to work with whatever I am given, with as little bloodletting as I can. I often do sit back and admire some peoples work (sometimes looking to see if it is adopted by Ford later). The pulling of cabs to facilitate engine work is an example. At first, it wasn't sanctioned by Ford either.
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Good point Vince on the cabs. Some of the aftermarket tuning has made it into the ECM.
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didn't read the whole thread guys.but in my shop i have found that the good ones are from sct and diablo. bully dog and edge are giving me supper head aches with thier over twisting of the motors anad tranies.

right now i have a blown 6.4 with melted pistons and a dodge we can't keep a trans behind for more then a week. the dodge has a edge. this last time every peice of the trans and converter was broken apart and converter wise i'm talking a presision unit one of the best made and only after the kid reinstalled the edge tuner.

with our custom sct tune we don't have any problem. any ideas what to do next guys? and yes i have called edge and bully dog they say no problems in thier testing
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