Cab Off Repairs

[Blue Goose]

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'hiding_smilie'

[mrfixit]

You forgot the "stir the pot" smiley with this one, Brad!



WHy do all those guys look like Mr GoodWrench?

[Blue Goose]

Got it covered now...

[Brian_B]

smiliestirthepot Vince said I am not allowed to make any comments on this topic.smiliestirthepot

[mrfixit]

Like DejaVu all over again, eh?

[Brian_B]

Yeah. No opinon changes....just not getting in the middle of it. LOL

[blacksnapon]

I pulled the cab on a 56 ford the other day...........makes it sooooo much easier!smiliestirthepot

[Brian_B]

I would imagine that removing the cab on a 56 makes it easier to charge the battery and to check the brake fluid. :)

That reminds me...I need to do that very thing this afternoon.

Got a lift I can borrow? 'hiding_smilie'








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[Fellro]

They never said what they even fixed on the truck.... still think it is ridiculous to design a vehicle such that it has to be taken that far apart for even some of the simplest maintenance...

[bowtiehatr]

removing the cab sounds scary but i promise you it isnt. i have done 5, and it is such a easy process, i didnt need the book on the 3rd one.

[slmann]

very interesting video. how long does pulling the cab take in real time.

[blacksnapon]

very interesting video. how long does pulling the cab take in real time.The more you do, the faster you become. Use 2-2 1/2 hours as a base. When you figure that a job that takes 28 hours, pays 14 hours, and pulling the cab lets you do it in 12...........how would you do it?

[blacksnapon]

They never said what they even fixed on the truck.... still think it is ridiculous to design a vehicle such that it has to be taken that far apart for even some of the simplest maintenance...What you're forgetting, is that its not necessary to pull the cab, it just makes it easier. After you do one, you'll think to yourself "why didn't I do this sooner". It also makes it easier on gms, dodges, and anythig else. Think about this: I changed 5 injectors on a 6.4 last week, without pulling the cab. What kind of "simple maintenance" are you referring to?

[mrfixit]

Easier than changing the spark plugs on a vette...

[Fellro]

Valve cover gaskets, injectors and the like. I am by no means afraid of pulling the cab, but I don't have a lift available to me any more, so it is a bit more difficult for those of us that don't have well equipped shops to take care of this kind of thing. I won't own a vehicle that has the motor tucked under the cowl, making it difficult to do much without either removing the engine from the chassis, or pulling the cab off the frame. I'm more for being able to pop the hood and not be a contortionist to get anything done. My back is already screwed up enough, don't need that kind of thing to make it worse...

[blacksnapon]

Valve cover gaskets, injectors and the like. I am by no means afraid of pulling the cab, but I don't have a lift available to me any more, so it is a bit more difficult for those of us that don't have well equipped shops to take care of this kind of thing. I won't own a vehicle that has the motor tucked under the cowl, making it difficult to do much without either removing the engine from the chassis, or pulling the cab off the frame. I'm more for being able to pop the hood and not be a contortionist to get anything done. My back is already screwed up enough, don't need that kind of thing to make it worse...Ford made procedures for cab on repairs. Valve cover gaskets, injectors, glow plugs,engine r&r, turbo, and high pressure pump all can be done without cab removal. Even though it can be done, it is still easier to pull the cab for major engine work. If a garage tells you it costs more to pull the cab, go somewhere else. It makes it soooo much easier.

[Bruteforcerider]

I could not imagine not pulling the cab for a major repair.l

[Bricks]

Interesting vid - do you know what they were servicing on the truck?


On a side note - was anyone able to undestand even one word of the lyrics?

[blacksnapon]

I could see that they had the egr coolers off, and I think the heads were off.

[surewhynot]

So they must have been changing the air filter. :p

[Brian_B]

They were checking the brake fluid and cleaning the battery terminals.

At least that is what is under the cab of my truck. Right Vince?

[blacksnapon]

They were checking the brake fluid and cleaning the battery terminals.

At least that is what is under the cab of my truck. Right Vince?I've only dealt with two old ones, and both times there was so much rust, debris, and less than appreciative venomous creatures around the master cyl and battery box.

[Brian_B]

I've only dealt with two old ones, and both times there was so much rust, debris, and less than appreciative venomous creatures around the master cyl and battery box.

I don't have those particular problems. You won't see rust under the cab of mine. So far...I have not found any venomous critters in it either.

Although...I was warned to be cautious around Tom. They said he might bite. smilietease smiliestirthepot

[lil_dq]

Is it just me or was that guy sitting on the bumper ALOT!!!! ROTFLMAO ok so know I know the REAL reason for pulling the cab...... A BENCH SEAT!!!

[TexasNomad]

My god.. That's wild, is that really necessary?

[Brian_B]

So far it looks like they are doing this to the bigger diesel trucks...correct?

I won't ever need one of them, so....

Are they doing it on the smaller F-150s or anything yet?

I am hoping to never buy anything newer than what I own now. If I do...I will ask Vince first!

In fact...I would rather go the other way, if I ever have to buy something else.


A friend of mine (die hard chevy guy) has a 55 chevy convertable for his car. His newest car (daily driver for his wife) is a 57 chevy 4 door.

He has the right idea. :wavey:

[blacksnapon]

So far it looks like they are doing this to the bigger diesel trucks...correct?

I won't ever need one of them, so....

Are they doing it on the smaller F-150s or anything yet?

I am hoping to never buy anything newer than what I own now. If I do...I will ask Vince first!

In fact...I would rather go the other way, if I ever have to buy something else.


A friend of mine (die hard chevy guy) has a 55 chevy convertable for his car. His newest car (daily driver for his wife) is a 57 chevy 4 door.

He has the right idea. :wavey:It all started with the 03 6.0 diesels. A couple of techs discovered that major engine work was much easier if the cab was out of the way. Lo and behold, its not that difficult to remove. Other guys started doing the procedure with other makes and models as well. While I question cab removal on an F150 (I can have the motor out in 2 hours without cab removal) some guys prefer to remove it. Make no mistake, cab removal isn't absolutely necessary, it just makes it much, much easier.

[Brian_B]

hmm....seems to be the way of the future if they are starting to do it on the F-150s (even if not necessary). Just what they are used to doing it guess.

[blacksnapon]

hmm....seems to be the way of the future if they are starting to do it on the F-150s (even if not necessary). Just what they are used to doing it guess.I know guys doing it with excursions, expeditions, econolines, dodges, chevrolets.

[Brian_B]

Good grief. How are they lifting the SUV and van bodies without warping something?

I guess I would know that if I had ever in my life used a lift. LOL

[Brian_B]

I wish I could link you to a pic by pic video of a frame swap on an old ford panel (late 40s or early 50s). Unfortunately, it is on the other site.

It was sort of a body lift, roll out the old frame, roll in the new, lower body. They used a small forklift for that one, if I am remembering correctly.

The front "cap" of my truck will lift off with about 15 bolts (never counted them). Takes two strong guys to do it that way. Why you would want to do that with mine...I have no clue. You can reach everything with just the hood open.

EDIT: Found it!!! It is on BobJ49F2's website:

http://www.fatfenderedtrucks.com/paneltruck/frameswap.gif

[blacksnapon]

Good grief. How are they lifting the SUV and van bodies without warping something?

I guess I would know that if I had ever in my life used a lift. LOLMost generally, set the lifting pads under the pinch welds. Keep the doors shut, and there wont be any problems. The difficulty comes with the amount of interior that has to be removed to get access to the body mount bolts.

[Brian_B]

I see. I knew the explorer had the body bolts in under everything inside.

See the video I linked to above. The hood came off...the front cap was lifted off by two guys...then the body.

[blacksnapon]

Why you would want to do that with mine...I have no clue. You can reach everything with just the hood open.

[/QUOTE]On yours I wouldn't do it, I was just messin' with you. Others, I would look seriously at them.

[Brian_B]

That was meant as a rhetorical question. ;)

There is nothing under there except the battery, brake booster, master cylinder, and a vacuum reservoir.

Most of them do not even have that much down there.

Oh...I guess you could work on the transmission under there. :suspicious:

[rambler]

I should have thought of that when I was removing the intake!

[Raptor22]

Wow, thats insane. I cant believe that that is standard repair procedure... what the hell are Ford engineers thinking?

[Blue Goose]

Ford engineers didn't come up with that procedure, innovative Ford Techs came up with that to save time...

[blacksnapon]

Wow, thats insane. I cant believe that that is standard repair procedure... what the hell are Ford engineers thinking?There are procedures to do all the jobs cab on. But it takes twice the amount of time to do it.

[Raptor22]

There are procedures to do all the jobs cab on. But it takes twice the amount of time to do it.

Soi instead that would have taken 52 Man hours? Holy crap...

[89frankenford]

holy chit!!!!! thats awesome!..



sidenote i have the cart the tech has!...i also like how there were a few techs just watching and shooting the chit with the tech haha

[Blue Goose]

Here's a cab off repair Vince did... (http://www.fordtruckfanatics.com/forum/showpost.php?p=169220&postcount=21)

You can find the whole story in this thread... (http://www.fordtruckfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9773)

[O'Rattlecan]

I remember reading in the threads Brad just posted that the engineers finally caught wind of the cab-off procedures that were being done in spite of what the manual said, and made ways to make it easier to pull the cab - the new 'right' way.

Ryan

[mrxlh]

I think your right Ryan. I believe all the bolts are on the underside, and no interior has to be removed to pull a cab on the 6.4 trucks.

[blacksnapon]

I think your right Ryan. I believe all the bolts are on the underside, and no interior has to be removed to pull a cab on the 6.4 trucks.The major hassle with the 6.4 cab removal is the locktite they put on the bolts. Its so thick, that its easy to spin the cage nuts on the inside.