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surewhynot
03-22-2008, 09:17 PM
Got new tires for the 94 finally. The Ground Hawgs still had good tread, but they always had balance issues and they were developing cracks in the sidewalls. Since I put more street miles on it than mud miles, I went with Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ Radials.

The Hawgs were 17/40-15.
The Baja's are 38-15.50/15.
Even being a smaller advertised size, they are still an inch taller and the same width as the hawgs.

They ride like a caddilac. You can't tell you're driving a lifted truck. I hope they wear as well. At $360 a pop, they better.

We mounted them tonight. It's dark and rainy and I'm about 3 sheets to the wind, so the pictures aren't all that great. I'll take better ones tomorrow.



http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n146/i_call_me_Tony/94%20progress%20pics/0803220001.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n146/i_call_me_Tony/94%20progress%20pics/0803220003.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n146/i_call_me_Tony/94%20progress%20pics/0803220002.jpg

95F350XL
03-22-2008, 09:43 PM
Looks good brother. Yea a good tire brand always runs bigger then it says. Sweet. Hope you didnt balance them 3 sheets to the wind lol.

surewhynot
03-22-2008, 09:46 PM
Tired that size always get bb's.
Equal will clump if it gets moist, so I put in about 8 oz's of bb's. Works like a charm.

95F350XL
03-22-2008, 09:51 PM
I have read about that, how does the BBs work? They wouldnt just all stay at 1 point and make it shake super bad? Like when you spin a bucket of water over ur head?

surewhynot
03-22-2008, 09:53 PM
That is partly the idea. They go to the point of imbalance and stay. The ones that aren't needed for weight spread out. It works killer. It is called dynamic balancing. Big trucks use the same system, except with a product called Equal (made for balancing). Thats the best explanation I can do in my current state of budweiser stupor, lol. Hope this link helps. ;)

http://www.imiproducts.com/equal/how-equal-works.aspx

95F350XL
03-22-2008, 10:28 PM
Ahh. Yea you did good explaining it. lol

Skandocious
03-23-2008, 03:11 AM
Truck's lookin' good as always Tony. Suuurrrre wish I could drop $1300 on tires at the drop of a hat :rolleyes:

jr32560
03-23-2008, 03:16 AM
nice tires and a new tip on the bbs thing-will see if any mudders up here are using them-lots of rednecks with big tires-will have to check on that tip-thanks Tony

lenny1carl
03-23-2008, 05:30 AM
Truck's lookin' good as always Tony. Suuurrrre wish I could drop $1300 on tires at the drop of a hat :rolleyes:

there goes my inheiratance:headbang:

surewhynot
03-23-2008, 07:52 AM
Truck's lookin' good as always Tony. Suuurrrre wish I could drop $1300 on tires at the drop of a hat :rolleyes:

$1633 with tax and shipping, but who's counting. lol

Lost
03-23-2008, 08:15 AM
wish we didnt have to run flares with those sized tires. Nice fine up here. Ow well.

jr32560
03-23-2008, 08:25 AM
$1633 with tax and shipping, but who's counting. lol

Chris is just jealous-heck if I could afford them I would do it!!smiliestirthepot

john112deere
03-23-2008, 08:27 AM
Be happy you can run 'em at all, Larry.

Maine won't let you run any tire more than 2" larger diameter than the largest factory tire offered on that truck in that year. (Example- buddy has an '86 Chevy half-ton. Biggest tires Chevy put under a K10 in 1986 were 31x10.5, so the tallest tire he can run legally are 33s.) For a while, the wouldn't let you run oversized tires at all if your rig was equipped with ABS, either.

lil_dq
03-23-2008, 08:28 AM
We put that equalizer powder in mine, it works ok but I think when I go to the 35's we are gonna do bb's. I was 7oz. out on two tires after breaking them down 3 times. So bb's might help cause the powder didn't.

surewhynot
03-23-2008, 08:58 AM
Yeah Doc, the powder will clump up if there is any moisture in the air. That's probably what happened.

john112deere
03-23-2008, 09:26 AM
Curious, Tony- do you try do any balancing with weights if you're adding the BBs, or make any effort to match the tire and rim up for the best balance?

Or just dump a bunch of BBs in and fill it up?

surewhynot
03-23-2008, 09:55 AM
I do spin the tires on the rims to get them as close as possible, but I don't use weights any more. Too many times I have lost weights out 4 wheeling and had to re balance.
Also, if you're out wheeling and tear a lug off, or just wear one down a bit, it will throw the tire out of balance if you just have weights. With bb's or equal, it automaticly re balances.

95F350XL
03-23-2008, 10:53 AM
Thats cool. Sucks that you can only go 2 sizes bigger then stock. What happens if you go bigger? What if you sand off the size...cough cough...I mean get curb rash in the spot where the size is?

msb71
03-23-2008, 11:12 AM
$1633 with tax and shipping, but who's counting. lol

The wife is.......

surewhynot
03-23-2008, 11:19 AM
She's been gone for a couple of years...

Blue Goose
03-23-2008, 12:01 PM
Tony, should this be something Skan should look into with his 33's? How much weight in bb's per tire?

john112deere
03-23-2008, 12:03 PM
Thats cool. Sucks that you can only go 2 sizes bigger then stock. What happens if you go bigger? What if you sand off the size...cough cough...I mean get curb rash in the spot where the size is?

Well, when it comes time to get an inspection sticker, if the inspector passes your truck with tires that are too big and you get caught running illegal, he gets a $10,000 fine and can lose his license (which results in lost income, of course). Not worth it to him for the $12.50 you're paying him.

Or if you alter the vehicle after inspection (i.e. get it passed with smaller tires, then put the bigger ones on) that's a summonsable offense.

If you're an inch over, you might get away with it, maybe. Much bigger, though, and you run the risk of a cop with an attitude making your life very difficult. Depends where you live and what you drive how your chances are. Here, in a Jeep, you'll probably be OK. Pickups are iffy. Farmington area, I wouldn't even THINK of running anything illegal on a pickup- just about guaranteed to get busted. Up north, most anything goes unless you piss off the wrong person.

surewhynot
03-23-2008, 12:12 PM
Tony, should this be something Skan should look into with his 33's? How much weight in bb's per tire?

For mine, I use about 8 oz per tire. Bigger tires need more weight. I've gone as much as 16 oz on 44's. I don't think Chris's are big enough to have balance issues like the taller ones do. He could try it though.

john112deere
03-23-2008, 12:17 PM
I don't think Chris's are as aggressive a tread, but I know my friend with the Chevy needed an almost absurd amount of weight on one of his 33" Swampers.

When he gets back tomorrow, I'm going to have to ask him what he knows about using BBs- can't remember if he ever got the tires balanced to his standards or not.

Skandocious
03-23-2008, 12:37 PM
You'd be surprised Tony... These damned tires are way out every time I take them in to get balanced... Probably a combination of bigger tires and a crappy brand name :headbang:

95F350XL
03-23-2008, 02:01 PM
1 of my 36's took like 10oz of stick on weights. I hate to see hammer on so I never do it. All of the other tires balanced out ok. I do the stick on in the inner rim then hammer on the back lip. Usually works out well. I remember at my old job some mud tires used to piss me off, so id be like its ok ill put it on th back. Hahaha

Down here pritty much anything goes except for tint. DMV passed my 36's. Guy was like you know there sticking out, im like not that much, he was like lookin at the fender real hard and was like. I love your truck so im a let it slide. I got to put cats on my stang for inspection next month. WOW like a week away.

A_G
03-23-2008, 03:10 PM
Nice ones, what happen to the old oens :D

ive used bbs, and that black sand looking stuff on semis. It works.

Oh yea ive done that, The ones that balance out real high, or you had to stick a bunch of wieghts on, they always went on the backs, but on dualies that wasnt possible. 90% of those are like 7-13 ounces, Ive see 30 to.. After sliding the tire around.


My old boss when we were slammed, on a front wheel drive car, he would balance two and those would go on the front and the once he didnt balance went on the back....:suspicious:

95F350XL
03-23-2008, 03:38 PM
My old boss when we were slammed, on a front wheel drive car, he would balance two and those would go on the front and the once he didnt balance went on the back....:suspicious:

Thats skechy caus it only takes like 3 sec to balance a tire. On the smaller cars we would just spin put the weights on and then put on car, no recheck.

The best was when the handle for the balancer broke and you would have to balance the wheel for the handle missing, then balance for the tire. It sucked, we had alot of come backs caus my boss was too cheap to fix it. So I finally did.

Lost
03-23-2008, 05:55 PM
Well you can get them inspected at places. Its lift Hight more than hight of tires(But can't stick out x of Inches) But if over 4 inches the cops start to bother you some if get out rural areas. If I ran acrossed State to Bloomsburg 4x4 Jamboree. They could Have nail me. I know they did allot of out of stater's going to show.

As for the straight axle . I did one once. years ago . Now I would have to get reconstructed title to get inspected. Least I don't have emmision (just visual)Yet . 40 miles over hill has it .

A_G
03-23-2008, 06:05 PM
alot of guys with old beaters and big wide tires will get corogated tin, and ribbit and screw it on to there fenders and bend it a bit to cover the tire...

surewhynot
04-01-2008, 09:18 PM
As promised, better pics. I have about 300 miles on them now and I love them so far. The ride and handling is great.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n146/i_call_me_Tony/94%20progress%20pics/0804010001.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n146/i_call_me_Tony/94%20progress%20pics/0804010002.jpg

89frankenford
04-01-2008, 09:20 PM
how come the grille looks like on both bottom ends the strips are bent? the truck is looking good other then that

TheRoadVirus
04-01-2008, 09:31 PM
Hey, at least it's symmetrical. Lol.

I love seeing your headers peaking out in that one pic, looks great. :)

surewhynot
04-01-2008, 09:32 PM
how come the grille looks like on both bottom ends the strips are bent? the truck is looking good other then that

The core support is a little whacked and it causes them to bend like that. It is on my to do list.

89frankenford
04-01-2008, 09:34 PM
aaahhhh gotchya

godblessmud
04-02-2008, 11:47 AM
Got new tires for the 94 finally. The Ground Hawgs still had good tread, but they always had balance issues and they were developing cracks in the sidewalls. Since I put more street miles on it than mud miles, I went with Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ Radials.

The Hawgs were 17/40-15.
The Baja's are 38-15.50/15.
Even being a smaller advertised size, they are still an inch taller and the same width as the hawgs.

They ride like a caddilac. You can't tell you're driving a lifted truck. I hope they wear as well. At $360 a pop, they better.

We mounted them tonight. It's dark and rainy and I'm about 3 sheets to the wind, so the pictures aren't all that great. I'll take better ones tomorrow.



http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n146/i_call_me_Tony/94%20progress%20pics/0803220001.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n146/i_call_me_Tony/94%20progress%20pics/0803220003.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n146/i_call_me_Tony/94%20progress%20pics/0803220002.jpg

Want to send me the groundhawgs?

surewhynot
04-02-2008, 03:55 PM
Already sold em. :D

godblessmud
04-02-2008, 04:53 PM
Way to bring the ghey! 'tool'

O yeah, nice tires yer gunna have to give us feedback after the first mud trip