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Ranger comparo

john112deere

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So today was the first time I've driven my two Rangers (see sig) more or less back to back.

Now, for those who don't know, I more or less worship the pavement/dirt my '97 rolls on. I love that truck. So my opinions may be slightly biased...

I won't comment much on steering/handling here. The '97 needs a new steering box and pump, and the tires were really low (it was too cold for my air compressor to run this AM...). The tires have pretty crappy tread, too, when you get right down to it. They switched to rack and pinion steering somewhere along the line, and I believe it made a significant difference, but I can't say for sure because it's been a while since I drove a Ranger with a properly functioning old-style steering gearbox.

The primary observation is that, if you're not a bit obsessed (like I am) these trucks basically haven't changed in the last 12 years. Yeah, I can point out tons of tiny differences, but they're all really minor details.

The mirrors on the '09 are a big improvement, for sure. (In fairness, if the '97 had the power equipment group the '09 does, the mirrors would be much larger. On the other hand, if the '09 didn't have the power equip. group, it would still have much better mirrors than the '97 does.)

They still haven't really fixed the manual trans shift quality. I'm a die-hard stick shifter- way more so than I am a Ford man, really. Both my Rangers shift poorly, though- they shift like my friend's ZF-5 with 300k miles on it, in fact...the difference being the ZF is actually a rugged truck trans, and these Mazda boxes aren't. I test-drove a Tacoma and Canyon before I bought this truck, though, and they both shifted just as poorly- the Canyon might even have been worse. I'm not regretting the manual trans in any way, though.

I don't know if it's the four-wheel drive (most likely) or the change from twin I-beam to torsion bar suspension, but the old truck turns a LOT tighter than the new one. Really notice it backing into my (skewed) driveway- the '09 will barely make the turn, while the '97 only has trouble with it if I start siding on the snow and ice.

The new inside door panels are a mixed bag- the fabric (vs. vinyl) where your elbow rests on the door will be a welcome improvement when it's hot out (doesn't matter much when I'm wearing my winter coat), but the new inside door releases are more awkward to grab, and smaller, to boot. A double step down, when you're wearing gloves.

Due to the more than quarter-million-mile difference in wear, it's difficult to compare suspensions and ride, too. The '09 is definitely sprung tighter- the back bounces around worse. The front is maybe a little better planted, but I really can't say how much is that the '97 is worn and how much is the newer suspension design.

Ford truck interior designers are still apparently unaware that most drivers left and right arms are approximately the same length, too- my '97 has a split bench, my '09 has buckets with a center console. Neither truck has left and right armrests within an inch of being the same height...more than enough difference to feel really weird, if you're using both simultaneously.

And lastly- the oversize Ford ovals, front and rear, are not an improvement, IMO. The ones on the '09 are close to twice the size of the ones on my '97. I don't like it. Looks tacky and cheap, IMO.

I still love my '97, of course, and I'm still thrilled with the '09. Not like it's any surprise, but I guess I'm kind of a Ranger fan...
 

nobodyspecial

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You arent planning on getting rid of the 97 are you? What are your plans with it? give it some TLC? swap in a 347? :D
 

john112deere

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I really don't know.

It's got enough rust that I'll need to do SOMETHING (either junk it or fix it) pretty soon. Kind of depends how long until I get a house with a garage/shop, really. If I can, I'll keep that truck until the day I die, though.

Doubt I'd go for a 347; very mild 302 is a possibility, but I'll probably stay with the 4-banger.

EDIT: the smart choice would have been to trade the '97 on the '09, along with the Escort. I couldn't even contemplate it. Everybody told me as soon as I got the new truck, I'd "get over" the '97...and with all the snow, the crappy tires on it, and a minor legal technicality :wasntme: today was the first time I've driven it since I bought the '09. To be honest, there was a part of me that was hoping they were right- I have absolutely no need for that truck, it's not cheap to keep registered and insured... But, no. At least not yet. That Ranger and I have been a lot of places and done a lot of things together...and we ain't done yet.
 
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I really don't know.

It's got enough rust that I'll need to do SOMETHING (either junk it or fix it) pretty soon. Kind of depends how long until I get a house with a garage/shop, really. If I can, I'll keep that truck until the day I die, though.

Doubt I'd go for a 347; very mild 302 is a possibility, but I'll probably stay with the 4-banger.
EDIT: the smart choice would have been to trade the '97 on the '09, along with the Escort. I couldn't even contemplate it. Everybody told me as soon as I got the new truck, I'd "get over" the '97...and with all the snow, the crappy tires on it, and a minor legal technicality :wasntme: today was the first time I've driven it since I bought the '09. To be honest, there was a part of me that was hoping they were right- I have absolutely no need for that truck, it's not cheap to keep registered and insured... But, no. At least not yet. That Ranger and I have been a lot of places and done a lot of things together...and we ain't done yet.


Turbo??? :D
 

john112deere

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I knew somebody who turbo'd a '97 Ranger 4-cyl. Not that hard, really, except tuning.

I wouldn't, though. It'll be n/a, no matter how many cylinders it has.

Much as I love Rangers, they're not set up for going fast. Period. I'm okay with that, and if I ever decide I really need a fast car, I'll start with something better suited to it.
 

nobodyspecial

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Do this:


 
I knew somebody who turbo'd a '97 Ranger 4-cyl. Not that hard, really, except tuning.

I wouldn't, though. It'll be n/a, no matter how many cylinders it has.

Much as I love Rangers, they're not set up for going fast. Period. I'm okay with that, and if I ever decide I really need a fast car, I'll start with something better suited to it.

Lies I say all lies. jmho



Thats basically what I want to do but w/ awd. :D
 

nobodyspecial

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[hijack]You still need an awd case? I am still looking for a manual 4406 transfer case for my mounty. [/hijack]
 

dixie_boysles

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the only thing i see that i didnt like were the new 9" ford emblems. THey should grow on you...I love mine. When Ford first put these on, i hated them, and thought the same way you did. But once i bought a Ranger with them on there, i absolutely love them. And yes you are correct on turning, these 4x4 Rangers do not turn sharp by any means...
 

john112deere

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[whisper]...now swap a 302/T-5 into the old one you panz...[/whisper]

It's crossed my mind, but I love the hell outta that truck as-is...don't really want to change it, except what's broken/worn out, or rusted.


(Which, when you get right down to it, is pretty near the whole truck...:( )
 

john112deere

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Well, miracle of miracles, the state of Vermont has decreed my old truck safe to drive on the road for another year...passed my inspection today.

Crap...this is the first time I've EVER gotten a sticker on that truck in one shot.
 

john112deere

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Nowhere NEAR as bad as MA.

MA has it the code reader tied into a central server, and then prints out a sticker with your plate number on it...very hard to cheat the emissions on that one. VT, all he did was plug in a code reader and see if there were codes, then sign a triple carbon-copy form saying there weren't.

*For emissions, ME was actually the easiest state I've ever been inspected in- most counties don't have any emissions testing at all, and you are not required to be inspected in the county in which you're registered. I always failed on safety stuff there. (Come to think of it, my Escort failed on safety in ME, too...a personal record, in fact- three safety violations.)

*And lest you think my old shop was trying to rip me off...I know my truck, I know what they failed it on...and what they didn't but could have (and maybe should have). They were more than fair with me.
 

RangerPilot

Boom Shaka Laka
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Texas isn't too horrible, at least on post-96 vehicles.

My Ranger (94) had to do the full workup, 15 and 25 mph emissions test along with all the safety stuff. Took maybe half an hour.

My Explorer is a joke, pull up, they check the lights, seat belts, wiper blades, tires, code scanner comes back clean, takes longer for them to write the sticker out than anything else.

As with Maine, only certain counties (namely, cities) require emissions testing. However, Texas does require you to be inspected in the county the vehicle is registered in.

The benefit of being in Oklahoma (where inspection is not required) is I've twice let mine lapse by several months when I haven't had the chance to drive to Texas, and nobody here cares.
 

john112deere

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The benefit of being in Oklahoma (where inspection is not required) is I've twice let mine lapse by several months when I haven't had the chance to drive to Texas, and nobody here cares.

Even if both the state you're registered in, and the state you're driving in both require inspection stickers, you're usually OK so long as you're not in your home state.

I've driven kind of a lot of miles with expired inspection stickers, but I've never been caught.
 

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